woopie Posted May 17, 2013 Author Share #21 Â Posted May 17, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica would... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted May 17, 2013 Posted May 17, 2013 Hi woopie, Take a look here Guarantee extension? At incredible price=admitting their camera are weak?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
iedei Posted May 17, 2013 Share #22 Â Posted May 17, 2013 ummm....you do realize I hope that companies ALWAYS make money on selling extra warranty terms to paranoid customers right? this is a business first and foremost....it's not a human rights commission that simply cares about people. LOL Â ALL companies offer extended warranties for their products....not because they think their products are going to fail....but because they know there are people who (A) ask for extended warranties and ( are willing to spend the money. Extended warranties are very profitable as most people don't use them during their ownership, as seen across all industries.....it is a 'paranoia purchase' for the most part. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 17, 2013 Share #23  Posted May 17, 2013 Extended warranties are very profitable as most people don't use them during their ownership, as seen across all industries.....it is a 'paranoia purchase' for the most part.  It can be. An alternative view is that it is a hedge against the potential cost of an out-of-warranty repair. An individual may feel that they can afford €295 but they will not be in a position to pay €1500 for an expensive repair or €6000 to buy a new camera. In that situation, it is not illogical to buy an extended warranty (that you most likely will not use) when the alternative is to run a risk of having to forego the use of the camera altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 17, 2013 Share #24  Posted May 17, 2013 Bad statistics, perhaps. Independent events, much like successive coin tosses, where the odds of heads or tails are always 50/50. It's called 'gambler's fallacy' for a reason. Jeff  : It works for me. Bad statistics but good karma Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted May 17, 2013 Share #25  Posted May 17, 2013 It can be. An alternative view is that it is a hedge against the potential cost of an out-of-warranty repair. An individual may feel that they can afford €295 but they will not be in a position to pay €1500 for an expensive repair or €6000 to buy a new camera. In that situation, it is not illogical to buy an extended warranty (that you most likely will not use) when the alternative is to run a risk of having to forego the use of the camera altogether.  Yes. But you cannot balance the loss of a used camera against the purchase of a new one. Another used one, ok. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted May 17, 2013 Share #26  Posted May 17, 2013 hi I've just realized that if I would subscribe one more year guarantee for my M cameras I have to pay : 1 - euro 292 for M9-p (6000 euro camera) 2 - euro 680 for Monochrom (6800 euro camera)  In my opinion this is like to admit for Leica their stuff are prone to have issues within three years... But 680 euro per year is like to say : i have built something approximatley and you should sent it to me almost surely ... Or not? Paying more than 12000 euro should not assure somethin more confidence in my stuff? Marcello  Extended warranties are almost always pure profit. Nobody't twising your arm to purchase it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iedei Posted May 18, 2013 Share #27  Posted May 18, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) It can be. An alternative view is that it is a hedge against the potential cost of an out-of-warranty repair. An individual may feel that they can afford €295 but they will not be in a position to pay €1500 for an expensive repair or €6000 to buy a new camera. In that situation, it is not illogical to buy an extended warranty (that you most likely will not use) when the alternative is to run a risk of having to forego the use of the camera altogether.  exactly. "paranoia purchase" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
woopie Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share #28  Posted May 18, 2013 Ok the conclusion is :  1 - one camera could cost 100, 1000, 1000 euro but customers have to expect the same percentage of issues in all the cameras with the same chances,.....  2- in any case you can only buy, but please do not complain and "so not disturb the bus driver"  3 - since we are felt in love with Leica we have no rights to complain for Leica commercial policy, but if we want Leica we pay ifor t and who moans is a psycopatic.  So I repeat "the mother of all question" : should I expect more confidence in a 6000 euro camera than in a 1000 euro ?the answer is NOT : banding, dead pixels, card reading issue, focus issue (35mm 1,4 asp I) , rattling (35 Fle sx 1,4), carrying eyelets in M240,.... Only normal issues...  So please Leica do what you want with my wallet and I will never disturb you with any complain..I only buy buy buy... In silence  And when I should realize that the percentage of issues in m10 are the same of in one Samsung camera I'll never disturb you...  Marcello Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 18, 2013 Share #29  Posted May 18, 2013 So I repeat "the mother of all question" : should I expect more confidence in a 6000 euro camera than in a 1000 euro  If anything, I think you should have less confidence in the reliability of the €6000 camera than the €1000 one, especially if the latter is made in Japan.  The devoted can spin it however they like but I don't think many owners of mainstream cameras like the DSLRs from Canon and Nikon have ever had to contend with cracked sensor glass or the strap lugs falling off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrianUK Posted May 18, 2013 Share #30  Posted May 18, 2013 ummm....you do realize I hope that companies ALWAYS make money on selling extra warranty terms to paranoid customers right? this is a business first and foremost....it's not a human rights commission that simply cares about people. LOL ALL companies offer extended warranties for their products....not because they think their products are going to fail....but because they know there are people who (A) ask for extended warranties and ( are willing to spend the money. Extended warranties are very profitable as most people don't use them during their ownership, as seen across all industries.....it is a 'paranoia purchase' for the most part.  Spot on.  With the above mind, as I see it, it's a judgement call whether I take up an offer of an extended warranty...  For example: With the £14 wireless door bell I bought, I didn't - an extra 12 months = £12 With my last new car purchase, I did - coverage for year 3 - 4 = £300 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
alandash Posted May 22, 2013 Share #31 Â Posted May 22, 2013 The Best Warranty: The company includes estimated repair statistics in the price, then provides a reasonably long-term warranty at no extra cost, covering function only, excluding normal cosmetic wear & tear, abuse, loss, and improper care. Alan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted May 22, 2013 Share #32 Â Posted May 22, 2013 The best extended warranty I have found is from the UK cvonsumer electronics dealer Ri**er S**nds. No messing about; pay 10% of whatever it cost for an extension to 5 years. I claimed on mine after four and a half years, and got a new replacement telly when the old one couldn't be repaired. And you can claim the premium back at the end of the term if you haven't claimed. Oh, and a claim within the first year doesn't cout for this because it's covered by the manufacturer's own warranty. Why can't Leica offer something similar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 22, 2013 Share #33 Â Posted May 22, 2013 The best extended warranty I have found is from the UK cvonsumer electronics dealer Ri**er S**nds. .... Why can't Leica offer something similar? Â Because they'd go bust? Â Incidentally, what is wrong with writing Richer Sounds? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted May 22, 2013 Share #34  Posted May 22, 2013 Because they'd go bust? Incidentally, what is wrong with writing Richer Sounds?  Notihing wrong as such! I (probably mistakenly) thought it was not considered good form to mention dealers explicitly by name on the Forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bill Posted May 22, 2013 Share #35 Â Posted May 22, 2013 Damn... I thought you meant River Song... Â Regards, Â Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted May 23, 2013 Share #36  Posted May 23, 2013 Damn... I thought you meant River Song...  Regards,  Bill  Now you're talking! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicafanatics Posted September 4, 2013 Share #37 Â Posted September 4, 2013 IMO, warranty is a waste of money.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
doolittle Posted September 4, 2013 Share #38 Â Posted September 4, 2013 Â Usualy bentley are better than FIAT or in this world without any rules everythig is coing to come closer but to the bottom? Â As a Fiat fan I take offense with the above statement. Better is a very subjective word Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 4, 2013 Share #39 Â Posted September 4, 2013 When they are transferable, extended guaranties are an asset if you intend to sell your camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted September 4, 2013 Share #40 Â Posted September 4, 2013 When they are transferable, extended guaranties are an asset if you intend to sell your camera. Â Sell my camera? I don't understand that phrase... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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