macpants Posted April 9, 2013 Share #1 Posted April 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) With the arrival of the new M with Live View and an electronic VF etc is it time that Leica considered perhaps a dedicated mount wide - tele zoom or two? Just wondered if this would be a good thing to do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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earleygallery Posted April 9, 2013 Share #2 Posted April 9, 2013 No. It would be useless as far as the rest of the M line goes, and it could only be used with the EVF or rear screen. Of course you can always buy an R zoom lens if that's what you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 9, 2013 Share #3 Posted April 9, 2013 Unless it had click stops at the classical focal lengths. They could call it errrrmm...Tri-Elmar perhaps? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tobey bilek Posted April 9, 2013 Share #4 Posted April 9, 2013 I bet a 28,35,50 would sell like peanuts at the circus. Or just buy a Nikon D7100 with 18/105. Nice camera at a small fraction of the cost and easier to use. Canon probably has something similar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 9, 2013 Share #5 Posted April 9, 2013 I bet a 28,35,50 would sell like peanuts at the circus. Or even a 35/50/90 Tri-something, but it would have to be a Tri, not a zoom. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted April 9, 2013 Share #6 Posted April 9, 2013 It goes against the Leica grain. Why build something that will be full of compromises? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rramesh Posted April 9, 2013 Share #7 Posted April 9, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Now a new MATE at f/2 would be another thing altogether. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 9, 2013 Share #8 Posted April 9, 2013 Now that would be a MATS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rirakuma Posted April 9, 2013 Share #9 Posted April 9, 2013 That would be soooo good especially if they can keep it the same size although its probably not possible nor will it happen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 9, 2013 Share #10 Posted April 9, 2013 You might dislike the price.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul J Posted April 9, 2013 Share #11 Posted April 9, 2013 too early Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted April 9, 2013 Share #12 Posted April 9, 2013 I'd be amazed if Leica made a zoom for the M, but I can imagine another M macro lens to make better use of the new capabilities and even perhaps a longer tele, 180/200mm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 9, 2013 Share #13 Posted April 9, 2013 With the arrival of the new M with Live View and an electronic VF etc is it time that Leica considered perhaps a dedicated mount wide - tele zoom or two? Just wondered if this would be a good thing to do. It's a nice dream. To stay with the tri frame line system, mY dream would be 28-75-135 f2.8, and 35-50-90 f2. I can take 28-50-90 if Leica can display to differentiate 28 and 90 in the frame line. No, I don't want to rely on the live view. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 9, 2013 Share #14 Posted April 9, 2013 You might dislike the price.... Tell me which Leica you ever like the price? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted April 9, 2013 Share #15 Posted April 9, 2013 Leica need to do something. The decent R lenses are already running out and we have only just started M deliveries. I am very glad I got an 80-200/4 Vario Elmar when I did, as prices have doubled since last year. Prices for the 28-90 Vario Elmarit and 70-180 APO have gone astronomical. Other R lenses are often old and the Minolta built zooms are nothing to write home about, just like the now elderly manual focus lenses from other makers. Lenses do not have an infinite life at optimal performance and the M240 demands top optical performance. Just look at DxO's scathing report on Nikon's current zooms on the D800, where they said that the effective pixel output was halved or more by many lenses. If Leica make a zoom or stepped lens good enough, even at a high price, people will buy it. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted April 9, 2013 Share #16 Posted April 9, 2013 R lenses on the M seem to perform admiralty. There is a R lenses on M thread somewhere. Lost track of it, but it's here. Even if Leica came out with a new APO zoom, I do not believe it would be any cheaper than the R zooms. The R lens zoom designs are terrific especially with the rotating lens/camera arrangement for shifting between kandscape and portrait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IkarusJohn Posted April 9, 2013 Share #17 Posted April 9, 2013 With the arrival of the new M with Live View and an electronic VF etc is it time that Leica considered perhaps a dedicated mount wide - tele zoom or two? [Anorak Mode On] No, of course it isn't! If you can't use an M lens on any M camera ever made, you can't have it; and Leica won't make it! It isn't an M otherwise! [/Anorak Mode Off] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 9, 2013 Share #18 Posted April 9, 2013 [Anorak Mode On] No, of course it isn't! If you can't use an M lens on any M camera ever made, you can't have it; and Leica won't make it! It isn't an M otherwise! [/Anorak Mode Off] Thanks, a nice joke. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einst_Stein Posted April 9, 2013 Share #19 Posted April 9, 2013 R lenses on the M seem to perform admiralty. There is a R lenses on M thread somewhere. Lost track of it, but it's here. Even if Leica came out with a new APO zoom, I do not believe it would be any cheaper than the R zooms. The R lens zoom designs are terrific especially with the rotating lens/camera arrangement for shifting between kandscape and portrait. Leica's move with EVF clears shows some lenses in the plan that are not compliant to legendary fixed M frame system. It could be wider, longer or zoom.Given the popularity and the trend moving more and more towards zoom, it's hard to believe the zooms would be left out. Using Leica S2 and old R for reference, the first zoom should cover the range 35-70 or 28-90. I hope it to stay away from 24-xxx. 24 is too wide to be included in the standard zoom. See what people get with 24-70mm f2.8, regardless Canon or Nikon or Sony. Price, you bet! , Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
darylgo Posted April 10, 2013 Share #20 Posted April 10, 2013 At Photokina Leica all put sealed the fate of the 28-90mm zoom as they prominently displayed it on their new M-R adapter. Why didn't they use a prime? A quick count of the lenses with codes in the R menu shows 1/3 to be zooms. Leica is not shying away from zooms. My guess is they are watching the R lens (second hand) market very closely to determine future product. Concerning prices for R lenses, some are still good value compared to their original cost and the prices on the used market when the R was viable. Despite their age many are optically as good if not better than the current Japanese brands. Kudos to Leica for producing lenses decades ago that are now being appreciated with the newest sensors. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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