Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 8, 2007 Share #241 Posted March 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) There both on there. Thanks Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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eronald Posted March 8, 2007 Share #242 Posted March 8, 2007 There both on there. Thanks The shutter noise is seriously excessive for a rangefinder camera. And I may be wrong here, but I think the shutter delay on my Canon 1Ds is shorter. Edmund Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iron Flatline Posted March 8, 2007 Share #243 Posted March 8, 2007 Thank you Leica for the Firmware upgrade. I like it, keep improving the product. A B&W preview would be really nice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eronald Posted March 8, 2007 Share #244 Posted March 8, 2007 Guy - did you run any of your beautiful images through my new profile ? Edmund Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 8, 2007 Share #245 Posted March 8, 2007 I have to shoot some in 1.092 . LOL have not had a chance but I'm bringing the M8 -21,28,50 and 75 with me to PMA so maybe i can get something decent to work with. Steal a model off the floor . LOL Oops my wife is going with me better be careful. LOL Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted March 8, 2007 Share #246 Posted March 8, 2007 The shutter noise is seriously excessive for a rangefinder camera. And I may be wrong here, but I think the shutter delay on my Canon 1Ds is shorter. Edmund I've no doubt at all the shutter delay is now much longer than my D2x (37mS). Sounds more like 80 - 100 mS. Bad news. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thpeters Posted March 8, 2007 Share #247 Posted March 8, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have make a tread of this, after upgrading to 1.92 software, the shutter is not staying open for sensor cleaning. Before it was ok with the previous software. Is it my M8 problem? or more people have discover this. Theo Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted March 8, 2007 Share #248 Posted March 8, 2007 Here is another little tidbit: Let the camera auto tower off, remove the SD-Card, reattach the bottom plate, put the card in a reader to dump it, the camera is put away for now (forgot to put the card back in). Then after a while get the camera, wake it up by pressing the sutter and start shooting. No warning. I had no indication there was no card in the slot until I pressed [Play] to bring up one I wanted to delete. The camera even shows the preview and histogram in between shots. Now if you switch it off like you're supposed to and then on again without a card it warns you with a beep and a warning on the screen. But I didn't do that..... Besides if you miss the warning you can still shoot like there is a card in the slot. It should show a warning in the finder and on screen just like it does when the card is full. I know you can shoot tetherd, but the camera knows when its connected to an USB port. - Carl OK: I know someone is going to tell me its a feature making the M8 behave just like my M6 with no film.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted March 8, 2007 Share #249 Posted March 8, 2007 Guy: - B&W preview *and* review for DNG, please. - User-selectable lenses. A focal length + max aperture is fine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted March 8, 2007 Share #250 Posted March 8, 2007 I have make a tread of this, after upgrading to 1.92 software, the shutter is not staying open for sensor cleaning. Before it was ok with the previous software. Is it my M8 problem? or more people have discover this. Theo Mine work as expected with 1.092 installed. - C Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cbretteville Posted March 8, 2007 Share #251 Posted March 8, 2007 The exif issues I reported for 1.091 are still there in 1.092 - C Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eronald Posted March 8, 2007 Share #252 Posted March 8, 2007 I want a shorter shutter delay. It's a camera, not a computer. My impression is before the "update" the shutter made less noise and triggered faster. I hate point and shoots because of the shutter lag. Why pay 10x more for the same thing without the AF ? Edmund Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted March 8, 2007 Share #253 Posted March 8, 2007 Didn't the pre-release ones estimate it using the sensor on the top of the camera and the inbuilt meter? You are right, Steve; the M8 intro in LFI also spelled that out. Sean Reid confirmed that the camera does indeed do this and uses the information to calculate the amount of correction to apply for vignetting and eventually for cyan drift. However, when in the forum the idea was previously mentioned of having the data written to EXIF file, several people expressed the opinion that IF the stop were written to the file, doing so would simply open another place for whiners to complain that the M8 wasn't up to snuff if the stop weren't accurately reported. I understand the logic, but I agree with you that if the information is available, there's no reason not to include it in the file. It can be helpful information, and it is one of the incredible abilities of this camera to be able to estimate the aperture from lenses that were never designed to pass that information. Two points--First, maybe sometimes it's necessary to acommodate the lowest common denominator of the audience. And second, maybe the feature isn't working to the promised +/- one stop yet, in which case maybe Leica is right. --HC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted March 8, 2007 Share #254 Posted March 8, 2007 Kindly include in the laundry list: The shutter should be better damped. Steve-- Maybe a bit nit-picking, but: Do you mean that the shutter should be quieter? To me, 'shutter damping' refers to reducing shutter curtain bounce--something I haven't seen mentioned in regard to the M8. Or am I off the wall on this? --HC Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
skimmel Posted March 8, 2007 Share #255 Posted March 8, 2007 Guy and others: Thanks for putting together your collective experience here and bringing it to Leica. Guy, related to this, I'd like to know why they changed the shutter with the new firmware. They may not be able to tell you at PMA, but would like to know if: 1) The change has anything to do with preventing the lock-ups and total failures? 2) Has the actual shutter lag changed (vs. just the sounds made)? Thanks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guy_mancuso Posted March 8, 2007 Share #256 Posted March 8, 2007 I would like to think Number 1 for sure. They are FULLY aware of that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
35mmSummicron Posted March 8, 2007 Share #257 Posted March 8, 2007 its not the shutter that needs to be quieter--its the rewinding motor mechanism that makes all the noise. to me the new 1.092 firmware double-click makes the shutter sound quieter, but makes it very apparent how loud the rewind motor is...... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cocker Posted March 8, 2007 Share #258 Posted March 8, 2007 I've no doubt at all the shutter delay is now much longer than my D2x (37mS). Sounds more like 80 - 100 mS. Bad news. Well, after the update of firmware my impression is that the shutter noise is more compressed i.e. shorter and less obtrusive (not that it was ever a problem). I have a D2x and I can't believe that the M8 is noisier. I am continuing to be delighted with this camera, the pleasure of using it and, most importantly, the results it produces. I am also getting a little bit tired with the carpers and measurbators - but it takes all sorts to make a world. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltoid1 Posted March 8, 2007 Share #259 Posted March 8, 2007 Despite what a few others say they found, I find no improvement in high ISO noise. That's all I evaluated. Packing it up now to ship to it's new owner. Well i wanted to start this in one place that can be used to send to leica for evaluation. 1.092 is out and i would like to see this forum update this thread on what they like and don't like and of course any known problems that they may come across. The reason for this is as they make there way to 1.10 firmware there maybe incremental adjustments to the firmware and as a forum we can help guide Leica in working on it at a faster pace if we keep everything nice and tidy in a location that can be sent to them. So i ask the forums positive attitude to helping us the end users and also for Leica's beneifit in helping them stay on track with there ongoing work towards 1.10 Now maybe if you see a issue is to use the thumbs down for a found problem and the thumbs up for a issue you found that you like and lets use a the question mark for additional functions. This will help understanding the data quicker I Thank You all in advance of your partcipation of this thread Guy Suggestion this maybe a good sticky Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 9, 2007 Share #260 Posted March 9, 2007 I have make a tread of this, after upgrading to 1.92 software, the shutter is not staying open for sensor cleaning. Before it was ok with the previous software. Is it my M8 problem? or more people have discover this. Theo No problem there (twice). High ISO noise clearly improved. Can somebody measure the shutter delay? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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