k-hawinkler Posted May 1, 2012 Share #461 Posted May 1, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I wonder whether using something like this BM9-B Set: Includes Base+L-Plate+Grip - BM9-B-Set - Kit Configuration Page avoids some of the stresses? I had dropped my baseplate and deformed the end, it fell on, a little bit. So I bent it back, but it no longer had a tight fit, was a little wobbly. The RRS is one integrated solid base and tripod plate. So, the tripod plate is not screwed onto the baseplate but part of it. Feels very sturdy. I have had no problems with it so far. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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thighslapper Posted May 1, 2012 Share #462 Posted May 1, 2012 I've always been rather wary of connecting any on my M9's directly to a tripod as the baseplate has struck me as distinctly flimsy....... I use mine in their half cases (Luigi and Zhou) with a hole drilled in the bottom. Both have some fairly stiff stuff sandwiched in the leather bases that spreads the load and the cases hold the camera and take some of the strain off the baseplate. My Mini Manfrotto works ok with the tightening ring off and I have changed the screws on my quick-change basplate and other gear for longer ones to compensate. For the bone idle like me it also means I don't have to take the camera out of the case.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikenic Posted May 2, 2012 Share #463 Posted May 2, 2012 I made an "L" bracket along the lines of Downstairs' design so that I could make multi-stitched vertical panoramas. The whole M baseplate design is quite flimsy, and with even a small lens on the M8 or M9 there are severe tangential pressures on both the removable baseplate and the fixed camera shell. The camera itself is really no P&S lightweight either. The RRS baseplate looks great (might get one), but this does not seem to be the part that broke and I'm not sure if it would prevent the same thing happening anyway. IMHO this is a problem inherent in the camera construction. PS Thanks Downstairs for that initial post ages ago on your "L" bracket design. I got a lot out of it. Mike Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hariseldon Posted May 2, 2012 Share #464 Posted May 2, 2012 This issue appears to have occurred on a small number of occasions, if it was a major issue would have been a significant number of cameras affected. Important to use our cameras and not wrap them in cotton wool unnecessairiy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atournas Posted May 2, 2012 Share #465 Posted May 2, 2012 A hair raising thread for whoever uses the M9 on a tripod. I wonder whether use of a camera plate, like the Markins PG-30U on a Q ball head, will relieve some of the stress off the camera's bottom plate. Paul Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wattsy Posted May 2, 2012 Share #466 Posted May 2, 2012 This issue appears to have occurred on a small number of occasions, if it was a major issue would have been a significant number of cameras affected. Important to use our cameras and not wrap them in cotton wool unnecessairiy. I agree with the sentiment that it is important not to overestimate the problem but I think it is clear by now that the camera design is essentially flawed in this respect. The combination of a low-ish tolerance fitting baseplate (allowing a certain amount of play when forces are applied to it) fixing to a brittle magnesium body shell (remember that the film M bodies use extruded aluminium for the shell) is probably not ideal. I suspect that part of the reason why this problem is so rare is that most M users probably don't use a tripod very often. Personally, I will continue to use a tripod when appropriate but will be careful when I do - in particular, try to avoid the temptation to fine tune the camera position by pushing on the camera body with the tripod head already partly tensioned. I suspect that is the situation which puts the body shell under the greatest stress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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AlanG Posted May 2, 2012 Share #468 Posted May 2, 2012 Personally, I will continue to use a tripod when appropriate but will be careful when I do - in particular, try to avoid the temptation to fine tune the camera position by pushing on the camera body with the tripod head already partly tensioned. I suspect that is the situation which puts the body shell under the greatest stress. Safety lanyard from tripod to neck strap lug? This guy is pulling a truck from his tripod socket: Nikon F3 torture test: (20 lb tripod plus 17 lb weight.) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/178369-m9-on-tripod-bottom-part-broken-anyone-else/?do=findComment&comment=1999471'>More sharing options...
vk2109 Posted May 2, 2012 Share #469 Posted May 2, 2012 good news for you, i had the same damage to my m8, which is out of warranty for ages, and it was repaired without any charges. that was 1 month ago, so this information should be very reliable. Thanks Matthias I sent the Camera to the NJ service Service and gave them the link to those threads. I hope I will hear good news from them in a few days. Thanks Vadim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
250swb Posted May 2, 2012 Share #470 Posted May 2, 2012 I'm not going to stop putting my camera on a tripod. Steve Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaques Posted May 3, 2012 Share #471 Posted May 3, 2012 Is it possible that Leica have changed this part at all on the M9-P? I only ask because I noticed when I got my M9-P that the baseplate felt to have a distinctly better fit than on the m9... I never noticed any free play on the M9- but when I put the basplate on the m9-P it immediately felt a little tighter and somehow more solid when locked in that the feel I was used to from the previous camera. I didn't have the M9 anymore to make a direct visual comparison though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vk2109 Posted May 4, 2012 Share #472 Posted May 4, 2012 Some update: spoke with Leica today and it will be repaired under the warranty !!! Thanks for sharing your cases as I am sure it help me to have Leica consider the repair under warranty !!! Great service and company !! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kronk28 Posted June 22, 2013 Share #473 Posted June 22, 2013 today it happened to me as well with my M8 ... camera on a tripod, all the sudden the casting breaks, the bottom plate remains on the tripod and the camera falls off (fortunately, I use the carrying strap even when the camera's on the tripod) dpreview says "the M8 is built like a tank" and "to say that the M8 is well built and robust is perhaps an understatement" ... but I'm speachless does anyone know which the Leica policy is in such a case? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted June 22, 2013 Share #474 Posted June 22, 2013 today it happened to me as well with my M8 ... camera on a tripod, all the sudden the casting breaks, the bottom plate remains on the tripod and the camera falls off (fortunately, I use the carrying strap even when the camera's on the tripod) dpreview says "the M8 is built like a tank" and "to say that the M8 is well built and robust is perhaps an understatement" ... but I'm speachless does anyone know which the Leica policy is in such a case? thanks Leica are generally pretty generous on out of warranty repairs. The best thing is to phone Solms on the service number and discuss the issue with them. Emphasise that you were not doing anything out of the ordinary, had a normal length lens on and that the base plate was correctly fitted on the camera, with the locating lug in its slot in the base plate. A cause of some breakages was where the base plate was mounted without the locating lug in the slot, which puts excessive strain on the latch. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pico Posted June 22, 2013 Share #475 Posted June 22, 2013 Nope. Mine has an RRS bottom and grip. Highly recommend. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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