k_g_wolf ✝ Posted December 31, 2012 Share #121 Posted December 31, 2012 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Not anymore, stanjan0 This is >>internet<< and matters a few days old don´t exist anymore in real life. Wishing you a Happy New LEICA-Year GEORG ---------------------------- ... in case you feel a strong need for more responses, open an new thread within the M-lens-section. You might be surprised what comes up then. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Edited December 31, 2012 by k_g_wolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 31, 2012 Posted December 31, 2012 Hi k_g_wolf ✝, Take a look here Should I sell my MATE?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
AlanJW Posted January 1, 2013 Share #122 Posted January 1, 2013 I had a E49 MATE and sold it to finance my M9 some years ago. I missed it for travel, and recently bought another E49, which has produced excellent files. What I made on selling the first one I lost on buying the second; that's because prices on this lens keep inching up. The generally accepted wisdom on these lenses is that the E49 mechanism is better (sturdier?) than the E55 but that both are optically the same. Given the same optical formula, I would suspect that individual sample variations will have a greater effect than on v. 1 vs v. 2 comparisons, assuming of course that they are both mechanically sound. Because E55's will be older there may be more risk assumed, and prices for E55s are noticably lower than E49s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Bird Posted January 1, 2013 Share #123 Posted January 1, 2013 I'd keep it. It is a great travel lens. The old adage to never sell Leica glass is true. You have 28 covered with it and f4 is fast enough for most uses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 1, 2013 Share #124 Posted January 1, 2013 Good lord ...... is this thread still going..... I would hope by now the original poster realises that you never dispose of a good Leica lens unless financially in extremis and you can't sell a kidney or send one of the kids out cleaning chimneys..... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted January 1, 2013 Share #125 Posted January 1, 2013 thighslapper, your just a newcomer joining in 2010 so your judgment is taken very lightly, put some time in and maybe you'll qualify to post. Do you own either one version 1 or 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 2, 2013 Share #126 Posted January 2, 2013 a very nice late V2 in mint condition.... and I use it .... judging by the state of the world economy and the return on other investments I would have thought Leica lenses were not far behind gold in in terms of a safe place to put your money.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted January 2, 2013 Share #127 Posted January 2, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Glad to hear it so, please post some of your images we all would love to see them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augost Posted January 4, 2013 Share #128 Posted January 4, 2013 sell the tri, buy dome primes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted January 4, 2013 Share #129 Posted January 4, 2013 (edited) Do we actually have something useful to do or is this whole thread just a waste of time? Note: the MATE (I and II) is a fantastic lens, as may be expected. IMHO at 50 mm it is one of the best lenses out there, OK at f/4 it is not so fast but I have other toys to deal with that. Its 'rendering' is phenomenal. Edited January 4, 2013 by SJP 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #130 Posted January 5, 2013 Come on guys please post some new or old images re: Mates :) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted January 5, 2013 Share #131 Posted January 5, 2013 see here all with the 35-50-28 tri-elmar = MATE Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted January 5, 2013 Share #132 Posted January 5, 2013 Stephen, beautiful images, the images of the large house with the beautiful blue, clouded, sky background did you use a filter, beautiful cloud cover? I might have missed where you are from so where were these beautiful images taken? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkP Posted January 6, 2013 Share #133 Posted January 6, 2013 Yes, well I'm looking for an immaculate E49 MATE. As the mechanism is intrinsically more delicate I'd not want to risk an E55, and would prefer to buy from a dealer who would honour the lens with respect to any potential problems - my obviously accepting the higher price tag that would come with this. Supply of pristine E49 MATEs has well and truly dried up at this time:( Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 6, 2013 Share #134 Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) Yes, well I'm looking for an immaculate E49 MATE. As the mechanism is intrinsically more delicate I'd not want to risk an E55, and would prefer to buy from a dealer who would honour the lens with respect to any potential problems - my obviously accepting the higher price tag that would come with this. Supply of pristine E49 MATEs has well and truly dried up at this time:( Most of the MATES appear to be stuck in Hong Kong...... I got mine from there before the prices jumped.... and it had obviously been back to Solms for a new mount a la E49 V3 with 6 bit coding. Seller was extremely helpful and trustworthy. Apart from a few marks where the awful metal hood attaches (which were easily touched up with Birchwood Casey Aluminium Black and now invisible) it is mint and performs perfectly. I think you may have a long wait unless you take a chance and go for it when you spot one.... Edited January 6, 2013 by thighslapper 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted January 6, 2013 Share #135 Posted January 6, 2013 ... a new mount a la E49 V3 ... Umm ... what is "E49 V3"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share #136 Posted January 6, 2013 Now this is according to Erwin Puts the foremost expert re: Leica lens and Leica stuff "THERE IS NO TYPE THREE (3) E49" that should be plain and simple but, no this mis no-mer continues to flourish. Countless people have asked the Leica factory for their word on this and no response from Leica, I guess thats just good business strategy on their part. Come on "Erwin" sound off again, please. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 6, 2013 Share #137 Posted January 6, 2013 (edited) OK, so its a version 2 with the old design mount replaced by the new one (as they fairly obviously would not still be carrying the old ones....) Get someone to edit LeicaWiki and remove '3rd version'. This is allegedly derived from his list taken from the written records in Solms and the 2001 'redesign' It's all hair splitting as optically they are identical. As for ergonomics and mechanical reliability I cannot comment, but clearly Leica would not have changed various bits it there wasn't some problem or other ..... Edited January 6, 2013 by thighslapper Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
01af Posted January 6, 2013 Share #138 Posted January 6, 2013 Okay so if there is a third version then what's the difference between v2 and v3? Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stanjan0 Posted January 6, 2013 Share #139 Posted January 6, 2013 Edwin Puts said noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo difference. ;);) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thighslapper Posted January 7, 2013 Share #140 Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Okay so if there is a third version then what's the difference between v2 and v3? 'I' never said there was a third version. It is alluded to as a 'redesign' in the 2001 from serial no. 3920101 onwards. I have no idea where the information that the 'redesign' referred specifically to the mount came from in Leicawiki. To quote Erwin: NOTE: The lists of serial numbers of cameras and lenses are directly copied from the original documents at the Leica factory in Solms. The lists are handwritten and sometimes, especially in the older periods, the handwriting is very difficult to read, so an educated guess has been made occasionally. There is much confusion among Leica aficionados over the exact interpretation of the lists. To be sure, they are neither production numbers nor sales numbers. In fact they are allocated serial numbers for future planned production. The year is the moment in time of the allocation, not necessary the year of production. Not all ranges have been filled completely by real production targets. And sometimes a range that is not fully used has been given to special series. If there are factual errors in these lists, I am to blame. These lists differ on many details with other published lists. I can only say that the numbers presented here have been collected from the orignal sources. Erwin Puts, february 2010 I suppose it all depends on just what amount of 'redesign' constitutes a new 'version' .... and that is officially down to Leica and unofficially in the 'eye of the beholder'. Is a 6 bit coded vesion of a lens a 'new version'... ? clearly not Is a modification to the mechanics of the moving bit of the mount that registers the viewfinder frame a 'new version'..... ? possibly I matters very little except to Leica afficionados and the anally retentive that want the 'best possible or latest version' of a Leica product just because of the label.... I can see this thread going on ad infinitum until we disappear up where the sun don't shine...... Edited January 7, 2013 by thighslapper Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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