shootinglulu Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share #21 Posted June 18, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Thanks for the responses I feel more confident in a way but solving the problem hinges on Leica making the flare reflex, as they say, and they have not done so yet. I have sent the pictures and will send more on monday when it goes back again, but it makes no difference how many pictures I send..I will probably recieve the camera and lens back in 3 weeks time, re adjusted in some way but issue unsolved. I am wondering if the problem is in camera, some odd problem that cannot be detected and I will have to live with it, it is upsetting/fustrating! I need a bike ride Simon!.My stress buster!. I had a long trip almost wrapped up, to go to Italy this spring, it was delayed, only delayed hopefully, and making do with long weekend rides. Actually I've been cycling more since being without the camera, a silver lining:) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted June 18, 2011 Posted June 18, 2011 Hi shootinglulu, Take a look here Normal flare?. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
shootinglulu Posted June 18, 2011 Author Share #22 Posted June 18, 2011 Mladen I am pleased to hear that ,and you have done some thorough testing. It would have been unusual to have a flare problem it seems my situation is unusual, more to do with the camera sensor perhaps in my case. Enjoy your lens. Lucy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sbelyaev Posted June 18, 2011 Share #23 Posted June 18, 2011 It is normal for any lens to flare. Summilux 50mm asph is not an exception. Sell it while the demand is still high. Get summarit 50mm for a fraction of the price of Summilux. Summarit is much easier to handle, It is more flare resistant. Optically it is at least as good as summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted June 18, 2011 Share #24 Posted June 18, 2011 The real proof would be, with a tripod and all done very quickly so sun does not move too much: Another M9 with your lens Your M9 with another summilux That would show either the camera, the lens or just the combination of the two. Maybe you need the assistance of another photographer - or if you can wait until August, I will be in your neck of the woods with my M8 and 50 Summilux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 18, 2011 Share #25 Posted June 18, 2011 ... Optically it is at least as good as summilux. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootinglulu Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share #26 Posted June 19, 2011 Ravi. Thanks very much! Camera and lens are going back on Monday, I hope it will be sorted then, need smiley with crossed fingers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xmas Posted June 19, 2011 Share #27 Posted June 19, 2011 Advertisement (gone after registration) Pete. More modern slow lenses perform better than older or faster at f/5.6 the little guy will be similar on MTF but will have less veiling flare.. The real proof would be, with a tripod and all done very quickly so sun does not move too much:Another M9 with your lens Your M9 with another summilux That would show either the camera, the lens or just the combination of the two. Maybe you need the assistance of another photographer - or if you can wait until August, I will be in your neck of the woods with my M8 and 50 Summilux. Very good experiment but a film M and a different lens as well will show just how difficult the sceane is. It is normal to get flare in extreme circumstances... . Noel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 19, 2011 Share #28 Posted June 19, 2011 More modern slow lenses perform better than older or faster at f/5.6 the little guy will be similar on MTF but will have less veiling flare... Even if that were so of the Summarit at f/5.6, it seems thin and a little parochial to claim on that basis alone of the Summarit that "Optically it is at least as good as summilux" I don't wish to side track Lucy's thread so let's leave it there. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted June 19, 2011 Share #29 Posted June 19, 2011 <snip>need smiley with crossed fingers! here you are Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/154455-normal-flare/?do=findComment&comment=1706824'>More sharing options...
shootinglulu Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share #30 Posted June 19, 2011 Ha, brilliant, thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stealth3kpl Posted June 19, 2011 Share #31 Posted June 19, 2011 I have 2 photos with this effect. I was trying to induce flare and angled myself accordingly. This is the result. I was surprized at how well the flare was controlled. The contrast of the image seems really good so the coatings seem to be doing their job. I took this flare to be just the initial bright internal reflection and subsequent reflections were controlled. I'm not keen on the very clinical nature of this flare. I also thought it may just be the B+W ND I was using. I haven't seen it since. I might be off target with my assumptions. Ektar, 35mm F2 Asph Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Elsewhere that day I was unable to induce flare in the same way. I love the flare from the 35/2 Pre-Asph IV: It's a funny thing. I once had complete intolerance to flare whilst using digital. With film I love the way it can add character to an image. I know this isn't any consolation to you Lucy. Perhaps you were just unlucky with your positioning. Pete Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Elsewhere that day I was unable to induce flare in the same way. I love the flare from the 35/2 Pre-Asph IV: It's a funny thing. I once had complete intolerance to flare whilst using digital. With film I love the way it can add character to an image. I know this isn't any consolation to you Lucy. Perhaps you were just unlucky with your positioning. Pete ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/154455-normal-flare/?do=findComment&comment=1707100'>More sharing options...
shootinglulu Posted June 19, 2011 Author Share #32 Posted June 19, 2011 Hi Pete, I think I am better at flare than you, with the Lux;).. There is interesting flare, your last shot and Otto Shultz type flare I like, and then the type that renders half the image to whitewash with bright orange arc which is simply a problem; and which I experience too often in average bright light. If the flare was less frequent and severe I would perhaps live with it, I love my M9 and 50lux. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
menos I M6 Posted June 20, 2011 Share #33 Posted June 20, 2011 Lucy, Jaap and Stephen are right on the money with this lens and flare. What you see in your images is not the typical flare, one can produce with this lens, when introducing very strong light sources, that can enter light despite using the lens hood (always use it with this lens!). In your case indeed, it looks like some forced internal reflection due to very strong light entering from outside of the frame. Shielding your lens by hand in such cases is your best option. If you really get flare, it will look like this (typical shapes with the 50 Lux ASPH and really only ocurring, when literally nuking the lens with a bright light source): "the welder" bigger on flickr Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted June 20, 2011 Share #34 Posted June 20, 2011 "Flare" or not it is a well know phenomenon that i've never met with the 50/1.4 asph so far. Using a serious hood might help as well as removing any filter needless to say. (CV 35/1.4 SC above, late Lux 35/1.4 pre-asph below). Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/154455-normal-flare/?do=findComment&comment=1707784'>More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted June 29, 2011 Share #35 Posted June 29, 2011 It's hard to get the 50 Lux ASPH to flare in normal backlight conditions--it's one of Leica's most flare resistant lenses (like the 35 Lux ASPH)... ...but not if the sun is actually hitting the glass! Any lens will flare if the sunshine is actually on the lens. You need to watch for that manually, since it's not a dSLR. Lulu--you really do need to use the hood and even your hand (really) or some other scrim to shield the lens if you don't want this effect. OTH, if Solms finds something wrong with the lens, then perhaps you've got a dud... it's impossible to tell from the photos themselves. I love flare too... expressionism & romance :: june 10 That's the Noctilux, and it's also remarkably flare resistant (it's one of the things that makes the Nocti special), but not when the sun is hitting the lens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted June 29, 2011 Share #36 Posted June 29, 2011 ... I love flare too... expressionism & romance :: june 10 Wow! That's outstanding use of flare, Jamie. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJP Posted June 29, 2011 Share #37 Posted June 29, 2011 Jamie "Laurin & Jonathan" is one of the best pictures I have seen in a long time, lens is unimportant but the message is very strong. The eye of the master. Maybe the lens is important in that it allows you to think that way, I am still considering that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamie Roberts Posted June 29, 2011 Share #38 Posted June 29, 2011 Jamie "Laurin & Jonathan" is one of the best pictures I have seen in a long time, lens is unimportant but the message is very strong. The eye of the master. Maybe the lens is important in that it allows you to think that way, I am still considering that. Thanks so very much Stephen for your kind words... I find the character of each lens, which you only get to know by playing with them, really does let you interact with a scene differently I've been trying to marry those characteristics with content for a long time, and every now then I get lucky and it "clicks" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoppyman Posted June 29, 2011 Share #39 Posted June 29, 2011 I have had this lens for about 5 years and used it on the M7 then M8 and now M9. One of its characteristics that I most value is its flare resistance against the light and ability to retain detail in the shadows in those shots. I always used a (black) BW UV on film and M9 and the Leica UV/IR on the M8, just with the standard hood extended. That hood certainly is short especially with filters, no question. One from film Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Two snapshots on M9, left uncropped for illustrative purposes here. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Two snapshots on M9, left uncropped for illustrative purposes here. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/154455-normal-flare/?do=findComment&comment=1718942'>More sharing options...
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