robert_parker Posted September 24, 2012 Share #441 Posted September 24, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've been thinking about what I'll need for nature photography, given the EVF's blocking of the flash shoe. - an M body - an EVF - a baseplate, the one with all the connectors, so I can then use - a flash bracket, so I can run an SC-17 cable up to my flash. That's four things to do what a single R10 would do. Eek! How I'm doing it with my R8 And it won't have a cable release! Well, not an electronic one. Does the M shutter button take a mechanical cable release? Rick The other option would be to consider the DMR, which meets all of your requirements, other than for an M body of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 24, 2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Hi robert_parker, Take a look here The R solution - more details. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
rick_dykstra Posted September 24, 2012 Share #442 Posted September 24, 2012 Rick The other option would be to consider the DMR, which meets all of your requirements, Well, if only. Each time I take a photo with my DMR there's stuff missing at the edges. I can't figure out what's wrong with the thing. The stuff that was in the middle of the viewfinder looks pretty good though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted September 24, 2012 Share #443 Posted September 24, 2012 Rick The other option would be to consider the DMR, which meets all of your requirements, other than for an M body of course. For us DMR users the camera's mortality is becoming as apparent as our own. Still working, still producing gorgeous files, but a little assistance here and there, like the reading glasses and knee braces for the camera's owners, are reminders that nothing lasts forever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psquared Posted September 24, 2012 Share #444 Posted September 24, 2012 Well, if only. Each time I take a photo with my DMR there's stuff missing at the edges. I can't figure out what's wrong with the thing. The stuff that was in the middle of the viewfinder looks pretty good though. Is it the right edge of the picture that's missing? My framelines are off such that I get less on the right side and more on the left side compared to the viewfinder framing. Over the years, I've learned to compensate for this. It's been like that ever since I got the DMR. This happens with both the original focusing screen and the uniform ground glass screen I use. Either the framelines are off, the focusing screen holder is not placed correctly, or the sensor placement is off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted September 24, 2012 Share #445 Posted September 24, 2012 Is it the right edge of the picture that's missing? My framelines are off such that I get less on the right side and more on the left side compared to the viewfinder framing. Over the years, I've learned to compensate for this. It's been like that ever since I got the DMR. This happens with both the original focusing screen and the uniform ground glass screen I use. Either the framelines are off, the focusing screen holder is not placed correctly, or the sensor placement is off. Framelines? What framelines? I'm talking about significant slices missing from all sides of the image. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted September 24, 2012 Share #446 Posted September 24, 2012 what latency I see I only see when panning. I suspect the EVF for the M, will be better. Let's hope it is better. But it probably won't be, as system latency like this is inherent with current technology processors. Leica would need to squeeze a Maestro IX quantum chip in next to the sensor before latency will be hard to detect. I've mentioned before how the R8 and module lenses are ideal for taking pics of model aeroplanes as they fly by on a low level strafing run. They start off small in the viewfinder but grow very quickly. The trick is to let them fly into the focal plane as the rig is panned, to take the shot when aspect, composition, motif size and focus are all good. Jogging the focus in bit by bit as the aircraft grows works well. The fly boys love these shots. With the M's viewfinder latency, they'll have to love shots of their plane's empennage flying out of the image. I had a look at a high res pic of an M and it does appear to have a thread for a cable release in the shutter button. Can anyone confirm? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
psquared Posted September 24, 2012 Share #447 Posted September 24, 2012 Advertisement (gone after registration) Framelines? What framelines? I'm talking about significant slices missing from all sides of the image. OK, I got it. You must have one of those horrible 1.37X crop sensor thingies. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 25, 2012 Share #448 Posted September 25, 2012 I had a look at a high res pic of an M and it does appear to have a thread for a cable release in the shutter button. Can anyone confirm? Until one of Photokina visitors confirm your eyes are telling you as is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamey Posted September 25, 2012 Share #449 Posted September 25, 2012 Yes it's a cable release,standard on Leica M Cameras. She's definitely a classic beauty. Ken. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/142032-the-r-solution-more-details/?do=findComment&comment=2124409'>More sharing options...
lct Posted September 25, 2012 Share #450 Posted September 25, 2012 ...She's definitely a classic beauty... The Shiva err. Leica "third eye" could be less obtrusive though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted September 25, 2012 Share #451 Posted September 25, 2012 Yeah, that's the pic I was looking at. Sure looks like a cable release thread in the button. Why they haven't provided an electronic release is a mystery to me. I use a 100m electronic release at the moment, at times with infra red beam-break sensors to trigger the shutter. We'll be back to pneumatic remotes with this. Infra-red shutter trigger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 25, 2012 Share #452 Posted September 25, 2012 Would be surprising if the new "M" cannot be tethered in any way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted September 25, 2012 Share #453 Posted September 25, 2012 How thoughtful of Leica to put some drain holes on the right hand side of the top deck so that you can turn the camera upside down and drain the water out. Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 25, 2012 Share #454 Posted September 25, 2012 How thoughtful of Leica to put some drain holes on the right hand side of the top deck so that you can turn the camera upside down and drain the water out. Pete. White version with 4 holes, black version with one - you need both for salt & pepper set. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdavis Posted September 26, 2012 Share #455 Posted September 26, 2012 Check out the R-solution at 14624 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted September 26, 2012 Share #456 Posted September 26, 2012 Check out the R-solution at 14624 First time I've looked at the wiki. Handy. The photo with the longer lens seems to have part of the lens highlighted, as if it's part of the adapter?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmradman Posted September 26, 2012 Share #457 Posted September 26, 2012 ....The photo with the longer lens seems to have part of the lens highlighted, as if it's part of the adapter?? Highlighted yes but not part of adapter. R-M adapter is a 19.2mm short tube - measured flange to fange. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted September 27, 2012 Share #458 Posted September 27, 2012 Last night I opened some good DMR images, full screen on a 30" display. Holy crap that is a good sensor, camera, thing. My wife was looking over my shoulder and I said "Look how good this is! I don't need an M." She asked, "How many megapixies is that?" "Nearly 10." "How many is the new one?" "24." "I think you better get the new one." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted September 27, 2012 Share #459 Posted September 27, 2012 Rick - Your wife certainly understands life's priorities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
roguewave Posted September 27, 2012 Share #460 Posted September 27, 2012 For us DMR users the camera's mortality is becoming as apparent as our own. Still working, still producing gorgeous files, but a little assistance here and there, like the reading glasses and knee braces for the camera's owners, are reminders that nothing lasts forever. I don't have this experience at all. I still can't find a better kit than my R8/DMR & 80 Summilux. In fact, the crop is the best feature. At the edges, it's just as beautiful & mesmerizing as what's rendered inside the viewfinders' etched frame lines. I have used several other full frame digital cameras and I own a D3, which I use in a very dark environment that requires iso of 3000 - 6400 to capture images. None of these cameras are in the same universe as the DMR. Hassleblad birthed an amazing piece of hardware which is so well integrated with the R8. I have shot more frames with my R8/DMR and with TriX 400, just my R8 than with any system over the last 45 years. What an amazing instrument this is. I'll put up any DNG from this kit against any current market DSLR camera. Anytime, anywhere. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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