NigelG Posted February 23, 2022 Share #17101 Posted February 23, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) I had been going to say that not much of the photo would have looked different in colour… Hemmings did an interesting piece on this unique HRG : https://www.hemmings.com/stories/article/initial-success-1938-hrg-coupe 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Rona!d Posted February 23, 2022 Share #17102 Posted February 23, 2022 I think it might be interesting to read about this car partly from first hand (long term owner). Ah, Nigel was faster, use his hemmings-link. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted February 23, 2022 Share #17103 Posted February 23, 2022 Yes - a real labour-of-love story. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 23, 2022 Share #17104 Posted February 23, 2022 Regarding the Volvo 1800 - With the original ones (P1800) the "P" stood for "prototype" and the cars were built by Jensen in the UK. With the 1800S, the "S" stood for 'Sweden" and the cars were built there. There was no P1800S. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 23, 2022 Share #17105 Posted February 23, 2022 Around 1970, I reassembled a 1951 Singer engined HRG from a number of boxes of bits, for a friend. As we had no manual, it was all a bit of guesswork. When I took it out for a drive, I could not believe how hard the ride was. It made the Morgan 4/4 I was using at the time, feel like a limousine. I took it down the road from our works in St Ives in Huntingdonshire to Brian Lister's shop, which was only a few miles away towards Cambridge, to ask his opinion, as I assumed I must have assembled the suspension totally wrongly. "Oh they're all like that and no you have got it just right" was Brian's comment." Wilson 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted February 23, 2022 Share #17106 Posted February 23, 2022 vor 5 Stunden schrieb stuny: Regarding the Volvo 1800 - With the original ones (P1800) the "P" stood for "prototype" and the cars were built by Jensen in the UK. With the 1800S, the "S" stood for 'Sweden" and the cars were built there. There was no P1800S. Stu, they were assembled at Jensen (1961/62) but the bodies were always made at Pressed Steel, also for the swedish cars until 1969 when they moved tools to Sweden. Basically you are „nearly“ right, but you might be surprised, there was a „P 1800 S“ in the first swedish model year 1963 (2.000 cars, year code B, production-# 6001-8000 produced from 04/63 to 07/63), see attached Volvo brochure. While the internal (longer) Volvo chassis code and the badge lost the P they still advertised it as P 1800 S. After 1963 (08/63 > = „64 model“) they were only called 1800S, 1800E, 1800ES. Common name (also among owners/clubs) is „P1800 ….“ but you are right for the 1964 model and later. I must admit I followed that „wrong“ naming and promise I’ll try to avoid that for the future. Thanks for your good input here which let me dig in my archive and external sources. First 3 prototypes were made at Frua in Italy. Then came 3 pre-production prototypes from Jensen. And Fissore made a 1965 fastback prototype. „P 1800 S“ in front of the US embassy in Denmark. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4389512'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted February 24, 2022 Share #17107 Posted February 24, 2022 Advertisement (gone after registration) Sorry Wilson, I neglected to officially turn it over to you as a result of your identifying the white coupe as a 'Hurg'. JZG 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted February 24, 2022 Share #17108 Posted February 24, 2022 I preferred the 1800ES Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17109 Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) For a bit of a change not a car but a very famous vehicle. What is it, who did it belong to? Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 25, 2022 by wlaidlaw Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4390505'>More sharing options...
willeica Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17110 Posted February 25, 2022 Early US EMD diesel? William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17111 Posted February 25, 2022 21 minutes ago, willeica said:Early US EMD diesel? 21 minutes ago, willeica said: Early US EMD diesel? William William Sorry William, long way away. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
willeica Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17112 Posted February 25, 2022 Shunting engine? British? William Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17113 Posted February 25, 2022 Even colder William. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17114 Posted February 25, 2022 Yellow Submarine owned by the Beatles Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17115 Posted February 25, 2022 42 minutes ago, a.j.z said: Yellow Submarine owned by the Beatles Good try but this one would be a bit leaky in the sea. 😀 Wilson 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17116 Posted February 25, 2022 Well I know that there were more than one of these (4 I think, but maybe more) so I'm not sure on the "who did it belong to" unless the answer is simply "C&O" ie the Chesapeake & Ohio railway. It's one of the "Yellow Belly" Hudsons built to run to/from Washington DC with matching similarly "streamlined" cars I think. We headed to DC from New York last Saturday for the Presidents' Day weekend on the Acela service - streamlined in the modern minimal way but with none of the "presence" of this design... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17117 Posted February 25, 2022 Nigel - The Acela is pretty and comfortable, but the road bed is not able to support even half the speed the train is designed to make. Too bad - it's very civilized travel. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
NigelG Posted February 25, 2022 Share #17118 Posted February 25, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, stuny said: Nigel - The Acela is pretty and comfortable, but the road bed is not able to support even half the speed the train is designed to make. Too bad - it's very civilized travel. Tbh - and maybe we travelled in an older car set - it felt dated with clunky metal slide up tables and pleather seats. Not a patch on high speed services in Europe / Japan. Coming back we couldn’t get Acela tickets as they were sold out so went business class on the regular NorthEast regional (25mins slower) and had better seats, more legroom I thought, and had only 2 other people in the whole car…very Covid friendly 😀 Edited February 25, 2022 by NigelG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 26, 2022 Share #17119 Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) Nigel, Correct a C&O L1 Hudson. These were converted from Pacific 4-6-2 engines to Hudson/Baltic 4-6-4 with longer boilers. There were actually five of them 490-to 494. They were successful at what they were designed for, pulling heavy passenger trains at high speeds. Given this they had a surprisingly short life of just over 10 years. The C&O was sufficiently happy with them to order more new (L2 and L2a Hudsons from Baldwins), which were the last passenger steam locomotives built in the USA. Again very short lives before being replaced with diesels, which were cheaper to run and service. This one, 490, is at the Baltimore Railroad Museum. Your turn. Wilson PS for some odd reason I am having great difficulty adding images to post, either JPG or PNG, which I never normally have. They appear as just a black or white square. I will restart my laptop to see if that cures the problem. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited February 26, 2022 by wlaidlaw 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4390983'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted February 26, 2022 Share #17120 Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) After restart, still unable to load images. Is it me or the forum? Wilson PS It was a content blocker problem. Edited February 26, 2022 by wlaidlaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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