Jim J Posted August 8, 2020 Share #13361  Posted August 8, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) Our next car is this one:   Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4023822'>More sharing options...
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pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13362 Â Posted August 10, 2020 Hi Jim. Is it a circa 1950 Jowett Javelin? Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim J Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13363  Posted August 10, 2020 1 hour ago, pippy said: Hi Jim. Is it a circa 1950 Jowett Javelin? Philip. Hello.  Yes it is.  I'm not sure about the year, but it is an early one.  I had to work in a Javelin to this thread, as I do have a bit of a weak spot for them.  My father had a dark green one in the mid 1960s (a PA or PB Javelin I think it was as, as far as I recall, it had hydro-mechanical brakes).  It was the first car I drove, although it wasn't on a public road, as I wasn't old enough at the time.  It had a number of non-standard fittings, including some rather odd sidelights below the headlights (the original sidelights were incorporated in the headlight assembly).  A previous owner must have rear-ended another car with it at some stage, as the grille was from a later model.  It was the first car we had with a radio - there was a large box under the centre of the dashboard that, when you turned it on, would start to glow and, after 30 seconds or do, you started to hear sounds.  The funny thing is, of all the cars my father had (and he had quite a few) it is the only one I am aware of that still exists.  A few years ago, at the All British Display Day at Parramatta (where this photograph was taken) I got talking to some members of the Jowett Car Club about my father's old car and one of them said that he knew the car and that one of their members has it in his shed awaiting restoration.  I haven't been to the All British for three years or so (it was cancelled this year) but maybe I'll take my Wolseley there next year and revisit the Jowett display.  Anyway, enough of my ramblings.  Time for you to post the next car.  And here's the whole photo of the Javelin:  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024598'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13364  Posted August 10, 2020 The history of Jowett makes an interesting read. They made a major error in the early 50's,  in replacing the robust if rather graunchy Meadows gearbox, which Morgan carried on using for the next 30 years in their Plus 4 and 8 models, with one of their own design. They then found out that making gearboxes was not as easy as they thought. This caused frequent warranty problems and delays to delivery of new cars. When Briggs UK decided in 1954 that they were no longer going to stamp the body panels, the directors decided to shut up shop.The factory was sold off to International Harvester. However, Jowett paid off all their trade debtors and returned funds to shareholders in full, unlike most companies going into voluntary liquidation. They kept making spares for years afterwards as part of the Blackburn Aircraft Company (makers of the Buccaneer low level naval/carrier jet bomber). When Blackburn became part of British Aerospace in the mid 1960's,  the spares production stopped but again, unlike most companies who just scrap any remaining spares, a lot were sold off, some 30 tons of them, to the New Zealand importers of Jowett and a lot were given to the Jowett Club of GB. One of the great "might have beens' of UK motor industry. The Jupiter sports model had a very successful competition career, wining its class at Le Mans etc. When I was a child, our local ice cream van was a Bradford from the same company, which use an earlier Jowett engine a 1L flat twin. It had a hand cranked Klaxon to let you know it was coming. The local ice cream shop was run by an Italian ex-POW, who like many Italian POW's, stayed on in Scotland after the end of the war. They made wonderful ice-cream. Wilson 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13365  Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Thank you both, Jim and Wilson, for taking the time to entertain us with your recollections; fascinating stuff! Apropos 'Old Cars Still Running' I have just checked the DVLA records and am delighted to see that my old and very much 'warmed-over' Porsche 914-4 2L which I ran as my 'daily-driver' for 16 years from 1992 to 2008 is currenty taxed & tested. I do miss having it but with the arrival of a new-born in the family it was suggested that, perhaps, something more practical was needed... Anyhow! Back to the events at hand. It had been my intention to post a very different car from the one which follows but I've only just returned home from 3 weeks away and was unaware that my intended 'suggestion' - a Privateer-prepared Renault Dauphine Gordini - was, in effect, the car-brfore-last so I hope this one isn't far too easy; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. Edited August 10, 2020 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024626'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13366  Posted August 10, 2020 Porsche 550 RS Spyder, with non-standard wheels? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13367  Posted August 10, 2020 Advertisement (gone after registration) On 8/8/2020 at 3:51 PM, wlaidlaw said: ...Aren't those Gordini wheels or maybe replicas?... Wilson Sorry for derailing the thread for a second but if I may go back to the Dauphine / Alfa for a moment? The Dauphine Gordini I was intending to post had the well-known Alpine A110 type rims but there was a 'Street-Rat' Dauphine parked alongside which sported a set of rims I had never seen before and wonder if anyone here can shed some light as to their parentage? If it isn't too clear(!) the centre-cap features the letters F and M over-and-underneath a greyhound in action. Apologies for poor quality but this tight crop has been culled from being mere 'background interest' in one of the other snaps. Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip.  Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip.  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024656'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13368  Posted August 10, 2020 19 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said: Porsche 550 RS Spyder, with non-standard wheels? No, Wilson; not a 550. If it helps in any way this view is of the front-end rather than the rear 3/4. The wheels are stock. Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13369  Posted August 10, 2020 Lotus 19? Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13370  Posted August 10, 2020 Hello, Wilson. No; not a Lotus either. Here's a snap of the cabin as seen from the pointy end. Elbow space is at a premium!... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip.  Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip.  ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024694'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13371  Posted August 10, 2020 Elva Mk.V? Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13372  Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) No, Wilson; not an Elva. Nor, in fact, is the body-colour a Red Herring (as it were...). Here's another snap of the rather voluptuously curved front wheel-arch bodywork - with a tantalising (or not!) glimpse of the corner of the windscreen; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It's getting tricky to find bits which don't give the game away at one fell swoop so from now on I promise things will get much easier! Philip. Edited August 10, 2020 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! It's getting tricky to find bits which don't give the game away at one fell swoop so from now on I promise things will get much easier! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024744'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13373  Posted August 10, 2020 Dino 206S? Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13374  Posted August 10, 2020 Hello, Wilson; exceptionally close... Here are a couple more snaps in case you wish to specify the actual car; Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024798'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13375  Posted August 10, 2020 Not the S as in "Spyder" but the Berlinetta, called the GT. It could also be the newer model, the 246, though I've never seen one with that chrome strip above the door button. If I'm correct, Wilson should still get the "win." 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13376  Posted August 10, 2020 (edited) Hi Stu. No, it isn't a 246. I believe it was inspired by the 206S (as mentioned by Wilson) and became a production car soon afterwards , these being the 206GT / 246GT / GTS... Last image of the full thing? Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. Edited August 10, 2020 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Philip. ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024855'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13377  Posted August 10, 2020 That's the 1965 Pininfarina Berlinetta Special 206P designed by Aldo Brovarone. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13378  Posted August 10, 2020 I think I found it: 1965 Dino 206 Berlinetta Speciale. Notice the changes to the styling for the production 206? Sothebys was offering this 1969 206 for auction in NYC five years ago.  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4024873'>More sharing options...
pippy Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13379  Posted August 10, 2020 43 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said: That's the 1965 Pininfarina Berlinetta Special 206P designed by Aldo Brovarone. Wilson Correct both of you. For those who might not know the history yet are interested this was the first 'prototype' (of three) for what would become the production car. I fell in love with the 206P sometime in the very late '70s(?) when I saw it featured in the Hans Tanner / Doug Nye tome on the Ferrari Race and Road Cars and was both surprised and delighted in equal measure to come face-to-face with the real thing a decade or so ago where it was to be found on display in the museum of the Circuit de la Sarthe. FWIW the 206 GT is my all-time favourite car bar none. Over to you, Wilson, and thanks to all for taking part! Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 10, 2020 Share #13380  Posted August 10, 2020 50 minutes ago, stuny said: I think I found it: 1965 Dino 206 Berlinetta Speciale. Notice the changes to the styling for the production 206? Sothebys was offering this 1969 206 for auction in NYC five years ago. Not a 1969 Dino or a 206. The 206 and the 1969 246 had knock-off wheels. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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