IkarusJohn Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11141 Posted August 9, 2018 Advertisement (gone after registration) Right John. Which model and coachbuilder? I might leave it to someone else for the moment. When I was at school, one of the parents had a four door version. It was weirdly pretty. Rolls Royce engine. Superbly finished, but was ... an Austin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11142 Posted August 9, 2018 We haven't heard from Wilson Check 4 posts above yours Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11143 Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) John Goriup comes closest. The car is a Talbot-Lago T15 Baby chassis with postwar body designed by Barou. What drew my attention was the design which preceded by many years Pininfarina's efforts for Austin and Peugeot. Edited August 9, 2018 by hektor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11144 Posted August 9, 2018 I might leave it to someone else for the moment. When I was at school, one of the parents had a four door version. It was weirdly pretty. Rolls Royce engine. Superbly finished, but was ... an Austin. John, the other parent's car was not a four door version but an Austin Vanden Plas Princess R (ADO66) Very good car, but hard to tune and keep in tune. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11145 Posted August 9, 2018 I might leave it to someone else for the moment. When I was at school, one of the parents had a four door version. It was weirdly pretty. Rolls Royce engine. Superbly finished, but was ... an Austin. John, I think you might be thinking as Hector says, of the Vanden Plas 4 litre R. This used the Rolls Royce FB60, an all aluminium development (but very under-developed) of the B60 military engine. This was part of a range of engines developed to meet a War Department specification for the next generation military small engines in 1943. The 4 cylinder was B40 and 8 cylinder B80, had a lot of parts in common with the B60, as do their larger (3.75") bore sisters, the B41, 61 and 81. These were engines suited for lugging heavy military vehicles though mud and clag and are just not very suited to car use.They all suffer from torsional vibration periods around 2800-3000 RPM. In addition the aluminium FB60 suffered from a range of problems due to under-development. A lot of these related to the cylinder head design for the Inlet over Exhaust engine. The head was held down by a myriad of small bolts and whereas that worked to some extent with the much stiffer cast iron cylinder heads on the B60 version, the aluminium head had to be torqued down in stages in exactly the correct order. These engines were pretty much hand assembled, mostly by apprentices at the Crewe works, using manual torque wrenches rather than colour coded air tools, each preset to the correct torquing stages. The end result was endless water leaks, gasket failures and overheating. Another British engineering triumph of the 1960's. Bentley had been considering offering a smaller car than the S series in the mid 1960's, as their sales volume was pathetic, code named Java and were hoping that Austin could sort out the teething troubles of this engine, so it could be used for the Java. After assessing the whole Vanden Plas R debacle, the whole Java project was dropped. The Vanden Plas was competing pricewise, against the Jaguar Mk.X, a hugely better car with independent suspension all round and a powerful, reliable engine, even if the car was not very well made. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11146 Posted August 9, 2018 Right John. Which model and coachbuilder? Hector, the Pininfarina badge on the front fender clearly answers part II of this question, and I never could keep T-L model nomenclature straight - but I'm quite certain the black car above is a one-off effort in the late days of Talbot-Lago's existence and was one of the last cars produced by them, a fairly short time before Tony Lago sold the business to Simca. Around the same time, the company modified their highly successful Grand-Prix chassis and produced a small series of 18 or so coupes, called the Gran-Sport 2500 I believe, which were an in-house design, and in my opinion were far more desirable, faster, more beautiful and generally better all-around cars than the PF model, specifically aimed at the American market, in fact, I bid on the very car shown below a few years ago when it was being sold off at auction in Monterey, but my puny offer was for naught since the eventual successful bidder turned out to be a billionaire collector of French cars. We're in the middle of moving to our new home in Eagle and I must pass on my opportunity to select & post the next mystery subject ( if it indeed was my turn ) but look forward to future participation in our little game as soon as we're settled and time becomes available. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3569425'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11147 Posted August 9, 2018 (edited) Advertisement (gone after registration) Anthony Lago also made a rather ugly saloon, the "Baby Talbot Lago" in the late 1940's early 1950's. There used to be one (it is some years since I have been there) at La Musée de Rochetaillée near Lyon. It was for sale at one point for €12,000. The rather powerful engine unfortunately attracted the high level of "envy" tax levied by the post war French government on non-proletarian cars, so it was not a commercial success and was probably too exotic to garner many export sales. I agree with John, the in house coupé is far prettier than the PF one. Wilson PS I have just remembered that the Baby Talbot for sale near Lyon, was Louis Rosier, the works GP driver's personal company car. Can you imagine a parallel situation today at Mercedes headquarters "Thank you Lewis for being our top F1 driver and in recognition, here is your new C220 diesel company car." Edited August 9, 2018 by wlaidlaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11148 Posted August 9, 2018 I understand the assumption of it being a Pininfarina design, however the website which has the car for sale http://www.classicandperformancecar.com/talbot-lago/baby-t15/1955-talbot-lago-baby-t-15-in-emeryville-california-united-states/424820/ad repeats that it was by Jean Barou, an obscure French coachbuilder. I speculate that it was designed in Turin and built in France. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11149 Posted August 9, 2018 I wonder if the PF badge was self awarded. Apparently Jean Barou claimed his design was inspired by Pinin Farina bodies on Ferrari's of the period, although the timing is not quite correct. An early version of this Talbot Coupé was at the 1951 Paris Motor show, whereas the early PF-Boano body Ferrari 250 cars date from 1953 and the definitive 250GT PF Coupé, which the Talbot Lago resembles from 1954. Maybe Pinin Farina was inspired by Barou Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 9, 2018 Share #11150 Posted August 9, 2018 Agreed Wilson. That thought had crossed my mind. Designers have been influencing each other ever since design/styling began. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 10, 2018 Share #11151 Posted August 10, 2018 Let's try this one: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3569963'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 10, 2018 Share #11152 Posted August 10, 2018 Aston Martin DB11 Volante? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stuny Posted August 13, 2018 Share #11154 Posted August 13, 2018 No further guesses? Let's see some more of it: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3571643'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted August 13, 2018 Share #11155 Posted August 13, 2018 Ferrari Portofino? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted August 13, 2018 Share #11156 Posted August 13, 2018 Well done. The replacement for the California T. Your turn. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3571652'>More sharing options...
hektor Posted August 13, 2018 Share #11157 Posted August 13, 2018 Too modern for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 13, 2018 Share #11158 Posted August 13, 2018 I thought about a 2015 California T rather than my Porsche Panamera 4 E-Hybrid, as they were around the same price but I was threatened with a divorce if I bought another Ferrari Explaining that her Abarth 695 had a Ferrari designed engine cut no ice at all. Wilson 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted August 13, 2018 Share #11159 Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) A more classic interior Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited August 13, 2018 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=3571810'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted August 13, 2018 Share #11160 Posted August 13, 2018 Alvis TD21 Graber Drophead Coupé? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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