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3 minutes ago, Viv said:

Many do that.

Wales has a parliament.

Scotland has a parliament.

Northern Ireland has a parliament.

Why does England not have a parliament?

......because the very last thing anybody needs is more politicians. 

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6 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

Cunningham C3 cabriolet with Vignale body?

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That is exactly what this is, a 1953 Cunningham C-3 Vignale Convertible - kudos to Wilson for keeping his eyes on the ball and identifying the car. 

Cunningham wanted to ensure that his cars would be homologated to enable him to race at La Mans and actually built the required 25 units, some in the U.S. and some in Italy. All the chassis were  produced in his Florida shops with lightly modified Chrysler 331cu.in. hemi engines powering them, through either 3-speed Cadillac manual gearboxes or the newly developed Chrysler 2-speed semi-automatic transmission. The example shown here, chassis # 5441, is the last of the entire run of C-3s and was built at Vignale in '53 and was owned by Cunnungham's daughter.

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......and a rear view.

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Ivan, 

I had a bit of a head start, as I think I may have seen that exact car or an identical one on the Colorado 1000 rally, where I was driving the Aston DB4GTZ. There were I seem to recall at least two Cunninghams, one cabriolet and at least one Coupé painted in an unattractive two tone sludge green. 

Open to anyone who has a car to post. 

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Let's try this one - maker and model designation please, since that will give us the year(s) it was made. Sure hope it's not too easy and takes a while to guess, because I'll be staying away from the computer for a  couple of days - heat wave, Tour de France, and British Grand Prix

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2 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

I know what this is (herpetology in Florida) but I will leave it to others. 

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Wilson, damned cryptic and it took a moment, but if I interpret what you posted correctly and the blue car below is what you're thinking it is......it's not - however 5 of the total of 6 Daytona Coupes built were produced in the same country as the white car above.

Indeepthought, not a Marcus (sic)

Viv - crude & underdeveloped, yes, but fast enough that it did lead every race in which it was ever entered at one point or another, unfortunately it never managed to finish any of them - not British.

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Stuart, as you concluded, not an Alfa......but both, Alfas & the puzzle car are products of the same country.

Wilson, not a Cunningham but the man was deeply involved with the white mystery car.

Hopefully another clue will help .

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Could it be a Tipo 154 Maserati. I know he raced various Birdcages, as we later owned and raced one of his Tipo 61's (my last race at Spa before retiring from racing), so that may have led on to the Coupe version of the Tipo 63 V8, the 154. 

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You guessed it, Wilson. It is a Maserati Tipo 151 - the series was introduced in 1962 and competed through '65.

The time period for this car was the early & mid-1960s, Maserati was in severe financial difficulty and their chief engineer, Giulio Alfieri, was desperate to come up with cars that could take on Ferrari and other looming competitors at the big international races, resulting in a confusing, messy situation  where this week's car had a powertrain from last weeks race in a different car so they could compete in various classes, some of their their cars had engines from other, older, crashed cars, resulting in multiple model designations for what were basically the same car, just updated to remain somewhat competitive. After the Tipo 60/61/63 'Birdcage', of which 17 total were produced in 2 & 3-liter versions ( and in a mid-engined V-12 version)  and under some pressure from mainly privateers such as Briggs Cunningham, Alfieri in a 'last stand' effort designed the Tipo 151, a front-engined racing coupe with traditional steel-tube trellis frame,utilizing the almost 5-liter V8 from the 450S sports racer but modified for endurance racing & de-stroked and with smaller bore to approx. 4 liters to compete at Le Mans in the Experimental class, DeDion rear suspension and aluminum body work. Three of these were produced for the '62 24-hour race, one for Maserati France, and two in white with blue stripes for the Cunningham Racing Team. I believe one was crashed and destroyed , I don't know what happened to the French car, and the third car, featured here is owned by a private collector in San Francisco. When I ran into this car, the only surviving example of the original three, at Monterey Speed Week in 2014, the owner had engaged Derek Hill, Phil HIll's son, to showcase the car in vintage races. Just like during it's heyday, and like most other Maseratis of the period, the car spent a great deal of time in the pits being worked on, suffering from the dreadful lack of reliability that Maserati simply wasn't capable of fixing, nor had they the resources to address their reliability issues. As the cars evolved they became tipo 151/2, 151/3 and 151/4, with some historians taking liberties and renaming them Tipo 152, 153, 154 and so forth, but they never got better or had more success.

All in all, today this magnificent old warhorse represents little more than a footnote perhaps, but I always thought that this big brute was one of the milestones of the 1960's 'golden age' of motorsports with legendary names and personalities fighting heroic battles for glory at mythical venues....gone forever.

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Another view of the car in the pits prior to the 'big' weekend race.

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Being prepared to be shown as a 'for display only' exhibit at the Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance, a year when Maseratis were the featured marque.

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......and the inevitable rear view.

Thanks for participating,

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