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Just a pity about the usual dreaded Italian tin worm on both the 130 Saloon and Coupé. I actually preferred the similar looking but equally rust prone Lancia Gamma Coupé. That is the one, whose power steering pump was driven by the cam belt. If you held it on full lock for more than a second or so, the stalled pump would break the cam belt and as it was an interference engine, the valves all said hello to the pistons. Goodbye engine. Mercedes would never have allowed something like that to be sold. Sadly I believe that Lancia brand is being shuttered in early 2026, which comes as no surprise, given that recent Lancia cars look wilfully ugly and are just cloned Fiats. 

Open to all as usual

Wilson

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I was always quite fond of the 1970s Fiats.  The 124 Sports is one I wish they’d remake - sadly, it wouldn’t have the light glasshouse cabin.

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8 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

Just a pity about the usual dreaded Italian tin worm on both the 130 Saloon and Coupé . I actually preferred the similar looking but equally rust prone Lancia Gamma Coupé...

Oddly enough whereas one senior lecturer had (as mentioned) a 130 Coupé our Head of Faculty had a Gamma Coupé. They probably exchanged notes in class...

At the recent Motorsport Day at Brooklands (where the last Mystery was snapped) there was a very noticeable - and most pleasant - Italian Flavour to be found in every quarter of the event. No Lancia Gammas but a great number of 'Family Members' in attendance. 

Shall I post a few pics during the intermission?

A Few Fabulous Fulvias lined-up on the old Finishing Straight;

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Some Seriously Heavy-Hitters. The Martini-bedecked 037 bears the name of a certain W. Röhrl on its flanks(!). These lads and ladies were all preparing to depart for some fun and games on the adjacent Mercedes Benz Test Track which is quite literally just across the road from the Museum's entrance;

 

This event at Brooklands was extremely interesting and has given me much to mull-over since I attended a few weeks ago. A slight diversion;

....But no. I had written a whole screed comparing this visit to Brooklands a few weeks ago to my experience visiting the Goodwood Revival meeting the previous month but...

In a nutshell? For the most part and for the average attendee Goodwood has now become a Disneyland-esque pantomime. Brooklands has a spirit which Goodwood now lacks. Utterly. Sadly.

I absolutely LOVED my visit here. The folks were wonderful. The cars were wonderful. The owners / drivers were all there so if one wished it was possible to talk to them and enjoy witnessing the passion they had for their charges.

I'm not sure I'll go back to Goodwood but Brooklands? It's not even up for question.

OK; wind the clock back and wind down... Far too much Latin Passion has built up so now we go back in time to the less frantic parts of the circuit.

Lancias there might be but let's put a Beautiful Big Cat before them;

 

...and back even further to those days when the word 'Musk' didn't evoke a scent of Rotten Eggs...

Hope that lot wasn't too dull.

Philip.

Edited Friday at 01:36 AM by pippy

[Graham (G4FUJ)]

Haven;t been to Brooklands for a years.  Looks like next year might be time for a re-visit!  Thanks for sharing the photos Philip.  I guess one or two of those rally cars may be at Prescott hill climb tomorrow for the Rallye day.  Unfortunately I wont be, so will have to watch Hill Climb TV instead.

Edited Friday at 07:56 AM by Graham (G4FUJ)
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[wlaidlaw]

A very handsome Lagonda 2 litre (14/60?). There used to be a regular customer who visited the tea house owned by my mother in law, who had one of the later Cozette supercharged models. He had replaced the Cozette vane supercharger with a more modern and less fragile, similar principle Shorrocks supercharger. Thanks for posting Philip. 

Wilson

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12 hours ago, pippy said:

Oddly enough whereas one senior lecturer had (as mentioned) a 130 Coupé our Head of Faculty had a Gamma Coupé. They probably exchanged notes in class...

At the recent Motorsport Day at Brooklands (where the last Mystery was snapped) there was a very noticeable - and most pleasant - Italian Flavour to be found in every quarter of the event. No Lancia Gammas but a great number of 'Family Members' in attendance. 

Shall I post a few pics during the intermission?

A Few Fabulous Fulvias lined-up on the old Finishing Straight;

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Some Seriously Heavy-Hitters. The Martini-bedecked 037 bears the name of a certain W. Röhrl on its flanks(!). These lads and ladies were all preparing to depart for some fun and games on the adjacent Mercedes Benz Test Track which is quite literally just across the road from the Museum's entrance;

 

This event at Brooklands was extremely interesting and has given me much to mull-over since I attended a few weeks ago. A slight diversion;

....But no. I had written a whole screed comparing this visit to Brooklands a few weeks ago to my experience visiting the Goodwood Revival meeting the previous month but...

In a nutshell? For the most part and for the average attendee Goodwood has now become a Disneyland-esque pantomime. Brooklands has a spirit which Goodwood now lacks. Utterly. Sadly.

I absolutely LOVED my visit here. The folks were wonderful. The cars were wonderful. The owners / drivers were all there so if one wished it was possible to talk to them and enjoy witnessing the passion they had for their charges.

I'm not sure I'll go back to Goodwood but Brooklands? It's not even up for question.

OK; wind the clock back and wind down... Far too much Latin Passion has built up so now we go back in time to the less frantic parts of the circuit.

Lancias there might be but let's put a Beautiful Big Cat before them; 

[... snippage ...]

Hope that lot wasn't too dull.

Philip.

Meeting up with the American Lancia Club for a drive around San Mateo County here in California, USA tomorrow morning. Please forgive my enthusiam ... 

I love my little car. 🥰  ... Even though it has been a right PITA to sort out some things this year. 🙄

G

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11 hours ago, ramarren said:

Meeting up with the American Lancia Club for a drive around San Mateo County here in California, USA tomorrow morning. Please forgive my enthusiam ...

I trust you have great fun, Godfrey, on you tour tomorrow and, of course, 'Enthusiasm' is to be celebrated 'round these parts!

Philip. 

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On 10/30/2025 at 5:14 PM, wlaidlaw said:

Sadly I believe that Lancia brand is being shuttered in early 2026, which comes as no surprise, given that recent Lancia cars look wilfully ugly and are just cloned Fiats. 

 

Maybe not, Lancia have their entry in for the 2026 World Rally Championship division 2 with the Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale.

[wlaidlaw]

I was watching the first series of Foyle's War last night (S1 E3) and one of the protagonists had a very handsome Lagonda LG45, with the factory Silent Travel Pillarless Saloon coachwork, in a particularly attractive shade of dark green. I think it may have been the car below or its twin. It would have been a difficult choice at the time, a 4¼ Bentley or the LG45 Lagonda. I would have gone for the Lagonda which would have saved quite a bit of money with the factory body compared with having to use an external coachbuilder to clothe the Bentley chassis. Performance would have been near identical, as would handling but the Lagonda would have had more consistent and effective brakes (for a car of this era, Lagonda brakes are excellent) with its vacuum servo and huge drums, rather than the mechanical servo, favoured by RR/Bentley and Daimler. 

Wilson

 

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46 minutes ago, 250swb said:

Maybe not, Lancia have their entry in for the 2026 World Rally Championship division 2 with the Lancia Ypsilon Rally2 HF Integrale.

One can only hope. One of the world's older and more distinguished marques. A friend who is a Lancia enthusiast, was the first person to recreate a Lancia D50 Grand Prix car, where he spent 10 years trawling round garages in Italy, looking for original parts. At that time in the early 1990s, FIVA were far more fussy about the origin of components. Nowadays you can build pretty much a brand new car and get it FIA/FIVA registered as a historic. I think that nowadays there are more Maserati 250F GP cars racing, than Maserati ever built, especially taking into  account the number written off in period. 

Wilson

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15 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

One can only hope. One of the world's older and more distinguished marques. A friend who is a Lancia enthusiast, was the first person to recreate a Lancia D50 Grand Prix car, where he spent 10 years trawling round garages in Italy, looking for original parts. At that time in the early 1990s, FIVA were far more fussy about the origin of components. Nowadays you can build pretty much a brand new car and get it FIA/FIVA registered as a historic. I think that nowadays there are more Maserati 250F GP cars racing, than Maserati ever built, especially taking into  account the number written off in period. 

Wilson

And Cobra's and Cobra Daytona Coupes. There's a place near Derby where you can buy new all the parts you need to build an FIA approved GT40, or have one built for you. Not that historic cars shouldn't be raced hard but I think you can detect in historic racing nowadays those who can buy a new front end the following Monday and those who are racing something unique and original.

[wlaidlaw]

When we rebuilt our 250GTO (3527GT), we tried to reuse the original panels wherever possible. We even found some fibreglass debris in the front end, left over from the milk float it had hit when leading the Tour de France in 1962. The car was rebuilt overnight with a lot of hand panel beating and still ended up first at the finish line but the French officials disqualified it for having non-standard bodywork. Reminiscent of disqualification of the leading Mini Cooper S cars, for having non-standard spot lights on the Monte Carlo Rally.

Wilson

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16 hours ago, wlaidlaw said:

...A friend who is a Lancia enthusiast, was the first person to recreate a Lancia D50 Grand Prix car, where he spent 10 years trawling round garages in Italy, looking for original parts...

Is this his car?

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Pic snapped with M2 and 35mm f3.5 Summaron.

Philip.

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8 hours ago, pippy said:

Is this his car?

Pic snapped with M2 and 35mm f3.5 Summaron.

Philip.

Philip, 

There have been at least one other D50 or Lancia-Ferrari D50A (no pannier tanks) created since my friend built his one but it would almost certainly have less original parts than the one he built. I believe he has now sold his D50, since like all of us, age has caught up with him and he no longer races (I gave up my race licence in 2012 and historic rally licence last year). I have not spoken to him for some time and I think he has also retired from being the Geneva based managing director of Bonhams now.

Wilson

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On 11/1/2025 at 9:53 AM, wlaidlaw said:

One can only hope. One of the world's older and more distinguished marques. A friend who is a Lancia enthusiast, was the first person to recreate a Lancia D50 Grand Prix car, where he spent 10 years trawling round garages in Italy, looking for original parts. At that time in the early 1990s, FIVA were far more fussy about the origin of components. Nowadays you can build pretty much a brand new car and get it FIA/FIVA registered as a historic. I think that nowadays there are more Maserati 250F GP cars racing, than Maserati ever built, especially taking into  account the number written off in period. 

Wilson

This is my grandfather's hatchet.

He changed the blade.

My father changed the handle.

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36 minutes ago, wlaidlaw said:

...I believe he has now sold his D50, since like all of us, age has caught up with him and he no longer races...

I can't remember if this example had any particular points of identification. The pic shown above was taken in the paddock during the 2001 Goodwood Revival so I might dig out the film-sleeve as I believe the D-50 was captured in another frame on the roll.

Philip.

EDIT : This article might be of some interest;

https://velocetoday.com/recreating-the-past-the-lancia-d50/

Edited 11 hours ago by pippy

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5 hours ago, pippy said:

the D-50

Revival 2018 (M10 / 50 APO)

I completely agree with you about Revival. There are those for whom it is a religion but it has burnt itself out for me. 

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On 10/31/2025 at 6:17 PM, pippy said:

I trust you have great fun, Godfrey, on you tour tomorrow and, of course, 'Enthusiasm' is to be celebrated 'round these parts!

Philip. 

Thank you! It was a fine day out with a modest set of Lancia folks from the area here. We met in Pacifica at 9:00am amidst a swirling mist of drizzle and fog, talked and did the 'kick the tires' thing for an hour, and then headed off for the first half of the drive down Pacific Coast Highway to Pescadero. My windshield was getting fogged enough that I turned on the wipers and left them on, giving a squirt with the washer now and then to keep the blades fully lubricated and moist. In Pescadero, we found a fine little cafe and bunches of other motoring folks who enjoyed our Lancias as we enjoyed their Porsches, Ducatis, et al.

I decided at that point that doing the route all the way back to Pacifica, and then the drive back home, would grow too late for my day as I had another event to attend in the evening. So I bid my Lancia friend adieu and followed them up and over the hills to the top of the ridge, then turned South on the ridge to head home while they went East then North West back to Pacifica. La Signora Fulvia acquitted itself without any drama or issues.  

Here we are gathered in the morning and kicking tires over coffee and pastries ... 

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Four Fulvia Coupés, a Fulvia SportGT Zagato, and a Flaminia Executive Coupé. One of the guys was going to bring his Aurelia B20GT but found just a day or two before the meet that the newly rebuilt generator had been incorrectly wired for positive ground (should have been negative ...), so he caught a ride with one of the other drivers. 

There's another one of these drives happening next Saturday, to the north-east near Concord, CA. I'm not sure yet I'll be able to attend, but that one should be both warmer and minus the fog and drizzle since it will be well inland away from the vagaries of the coastal weather. We shall see.

Lancia Flaminia Executive Coupé

Enjoy! G

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7 hours ago, pippy said:

I can't remember if this example had any particular points of identification. The pic shown above was taken in the paddock during the 2001 Goodwood Revival so I might dig out the film-sleeve as I believe the D-50 was captured in another frame on the roll.

Philip.

EDIT : This article might be of some interest;

https://velocetoday.com/recreating-the-past-the-lancia-d50/

It would still have been in Anthony's ownership at that time and I think it would have been recently completed. 

Wilson

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38 minutes ago, ramarren said:

Thank you! It was a fine day out with a modest set of Lancia folks from the area here. We met in Pacifica at 9:00am amidst a swirling mist of drizzle and fog, talked and did the 'kick the tires' thing for an hour, and then headed off for the first half of the drive down Pacific Coast Highway to Pescadero. My windshield was getting fogged enough that I turned on the wipers and left them on, giving a squirt with the washer now and then to keep the blades fully lubricated and moist. In Pescadero, we found a fine little cafe and bunches of other motoring folks who enjoyed our Lancias as we enjoyed their Porsches, Ducatis, et al.

I decided at that point that doing the route all the way back to Pacifica, and then the drive back home, would grow too late for my day as I had another event to attend in the evening. So I bid my Lancia friend adieu and followed them up and over the hills to the top of the ridge, then turned South on the ridge to head home while they went East then North West back to Pacifica. La Signora Fulvia acquitted itself without any drama or issues.  

Here we are gathered in the morning and kicking tires over coffee and pastries ... 

Four Fulvia Coupés, a Fulvia SportGT Zagato, and a Flaminia Executive Coupé. One of the guys was going to bring his Aurelia B20GT but found just a day or two before the meet that the newly rebuilt generator had been incorrectly wired for positive ground (should have been negative ...), so he caught a ride with one of the other drivers. 

There's another one of these drives happening next Saturday, to the north-east near Concord, CA. I'm not sure yet I'll be able to attend, but that one should be both warmer and minus the fog and drizzle since it will be well inland away from the vagaries of the coastal weather. We shall see.

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Lancia Flaminia Executive Coupé

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Godfrey, 

Back when I was about to give up racing and take up historic rallying instead, one of the cars on my wish list was a Touring Flaminia Coupé (The prettier Zagato ones, with the double bubble roof were outside of my budget). I got my brother's competition car fleet manager, Phil, to go and look at one for me. He came back with the rather alarming report that the driver's side floor had been at least partially replaced with biscuit tins beaten flat (Huntley and Palmers I believe). Like most Italian cars of the era, in the British climate and with salted roads in the winter, unless made of aluminium or very recently professionally restored , they tend to be rather porous. I looked at an Alfa GTA tribute car and it was just the same, although lovely to drive. The 911 RSR ex-race car I bought from a California scrap yard (blown up engine/no internals in the gearbox) , had been a California car from new and was completely rust free. Even the hot air butterflies (from the exhaust heat exchangers) still rotated. 

Wilson

 

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