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6 minutes ago, stuny said:

A lot closer - It is an Oldsmobile.  Keep going.

 

BTW:  the Pontiac firebird shares much of its body, chassis and running gear with the Chevrolet Camaro.  This Oldsmobile shares a lot with a different Pontiac and Chevy.

Oldsmobile 442

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Neither of you have the vintage, but close enough.  However, the award goes to D.M.A.A.D.  Here's why:  When Pontiac put a V-8 into their Tempest, Pontiac Lemans model and did other tuning, becoming the GTO (BTW:  Car & Driver magazine claimed it outperformed the Ferrari GTO, which in more recent years they admitted it was an attention getting lie), Oldsmobile came up with their own performance car, the 4-4-2.  Initially it was little more than specifying a performance package for their '64 F84, but they kept developing it.  The original name stood for,4-barrrel carburetor, 4-speed floor mounted shifter and 2 exhaust pipes.  Eventually they no longer offered the 4-speed, and said the 4-4-2 stood for 400 horsepower, 4-barrel carb and dual exhaust. In '79 GM allowed their divisions to increase engine displacement, and the 442 went up form 400 cid to 455, and greater power.  It is also the most sought-after model year by muscle car fans. 1971 was the last year in which they included the hyphens in the model's name and changed it to just 442 for '72.  The mystery car is a '72.  The '72 reduced its compression ratio (to about 8.5, if I recall) to allow fir the car to run on unleaded, regular fuel.

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On 8/5/2025 at 6:12 PM, stuny said:

Neither of you have the vintage, but close enough.  However, the award goes to D.M.A.A.D.  Here's why:  When Pontiac put a V-8 into their Tempest, Pontiac Lemans model and did other tuning, becoming the GTO (BTW:  Car & Driver magazine claimed it outperformed the Ferrari GTO, which in more recent years they admitted it was an attention getting lie), Oldsmobile came up with their own performance car, the 4-4-2.  Initially it was little more than specifying a performance package for their '64 F84, but they kept developing it.  The original name stood for,4-barrrel carburetor, 4-speed floor mounted shifter and 2 exhaust pipes.  Eventually they no longer offered the 4-speed, and said the 4-4-2 stood for 400 horsepower, 4-barrel carb and dual exhaust. In '79 GM allowed their divisions to increase engine displacement, and the 442 went up form 400 cid to 455, and greater power.  It is also the most sought-after model year by muscle car fans. 1971 was the last year in which they included the hyphens in the model's name and changed it to just 442 for '72.  The mystery car is a '72.  The '72 reduced its compression ratio (to about 8.5, if I recall) to allow fir the car to run on unleaded, regular fuel.

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Still a great muscle car in spirit, even downtuned in '72,  but Oldsmobile just didn't have the homologated dealers packs that could turn it into dragster or race car like Ford had. The front end design is one of my favourite in America cars.

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D.M.A.A.D. has bowed out, so that suggests Wilson should be next.  However, since Wilson has been passing his turn, the next closest correct answer was graham, identifying "Oldsmobile" and "1970."  Your turn, Graham

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I suspect this will be a very easy one. Make model year as usual. 

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I said it was an easy one. There were two at the local car meet (1st Sunday of the month) last week-end. Otherwise not a lot interesting. A BMW 3.0 CSi and a BMW 635 Highline Coupé. A few 911's, an MG TC and some modern stuff. The other 8 Gordini was a serious rally car with roll cage, heavily tweaked engine and lots of stickers. I took my grandson down to the meet in my Morgan Three Wheeler and parked next to another Morgan, a 4/4. I always wondered why Renault did not fit an 1300 DOHC Alpine engine into the R8 Gordini as that would have made a seriously quick car. 

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Thank you, Wilson. My father had a R8 (a regular one, not a Gordini) in the sixties; he kept the car 6 months 😁.

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My mother had an R8 but she became my father's chauffeur after he had a stroke in 1968. Her chronic inability to change gears, irritated him to the extend that he sold the R8 and bought her a DAF 66 with the dual rubber band CVT.

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I was thinking along the lines of a Fiat 500 but the headlamp bezel looks like it might be too thick / wide for that model...

Curious!

Philip.

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Sorry, Wilson, but Philip is right: it is a Fiat 500X (I don’t except anybody to be able to differentiate a 500 from a 500X, or L, or YZ, or whatever letter on such a photographic détail…). The only thing I know is that there is no Takata airbag inside 🙂.

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23 minutes ago, Bernard M said:

...it is a Fiat 500X (I don’t except anybody to be able to differentiate a 500 from a 500X, or L, or YZ, or whatever letter on such a photographic détail…

Ah! I don't think I wouuld have been able to narrow-down the model to the 'X' variant. Thanks for the clarification!

OK; let's see how quickly this one is solved. Hopefully by stumps-up today as tomorrow we will be on the road from 05:00 heading down to La Rochelle...

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