stuny Posted March 18, 2021 Share #14881 Posted March 18, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I've seen more Cunninghams than Allards, so the Allard JR was pretty much off my radar. Could this be one? they were made and raced in the early '50s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2021 Share #14882 Posted March 18, 2021 Stuart, The Allard was made in South London, UK not in the USA except for the engines. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 18, 2021 Share #14883 Posted March 18, 2021 I searched out my 1960 edition of An Observer's Guide to Automobiles with intro bySir Stirling, and found it covered even UK cars produced in lots of less than 10, but just covered the US big 3 automakers. I think I need Wilson's automobile library. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2021 Share #14884 Posted March 18, 2021 (edited) Stuart, You need to add Georgano's Encyclopaedia of the Automobile to your library https://www.abebooks.co.uk/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=22747854080&searchurl=kn%3DThe%2BEncyclopaedia%2Bof%2Bthe%2BAutomobile%2BGeorgano%26sortby%3D17&cm_sp=snippet-_-srp1-_-title20. I have an old 1960's non-illustrated edition of this. It is now published by The Beaulieu Motor Museum in three volumes quite expensively. Wilson Edited March 18, 2021 by wlaidlaw 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham (G4FUJ) Posted March 19, 2021 Share #14885 Posted March 19, 2021 Thanks for the pointer Wilson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 19, 2021 Share #14886 Posted March 19, 2021 Think Indianapolis guys Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 19, 2021 Share #14887 Posted March 19, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: Think Indianapolis guys Wilson Having opened that door, the name Frank Kurtis suddenly pops up . With a bit of stretching the imagination I can envision a modified '49 or '50 two-seater Kurtis Kraft sports racer - although the Raydot -style mirrors and drilled-for-lightness filler cap suggest a 'mid-'50s effort.......but there are still those 'suicide doors' to account for. JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 19, 2021 Share #14888 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) John, I think from memory, this one dated from 1953 and is an original car, not one of the continuation series being made by Kurtis Junior. It is a 500S Kurtis Kraft, of which 25 were factory built and a few more from kits or converted from single seaters. Someone who was watching us taking a breather at the top of Independence Pass, commented "The beauty and the beast". Another comment on the 500S was that it looked like a shark playing a mouth-organ but they were very successful all though the 1950's, racing against stiff European built competition, like Jaguar C and D types, various Ferraris and Maseratis etc. The Kurtis uses a Chrysler Firepower Hemi engine of 331 inches/5.4L producing about 250-280BHP in street/race trim in period but the current historic Kurtis racers are getting close to 400BHP from these engines nowadays. Your turn Wilson PS If that was my Kurtis, I would glue transparent U section edging over the razor sharp perspex/plexiglass edges of the windscreen and side windows. Those look lethal. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited March 19, 2021 by wlaidlaw 5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4163859'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 19, 2021 Share #14889 Posted March 19, 2021 Thank you, Wilson - the next one is barely more mainstream, with about ten times the number of units produced that Kurtis turned out of the 500S model, built in roughly the same time period. The usual please,.........manufacturer, model and approx. year. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4163948'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14890 Posted March 20, 2021 A Facel Vega, FV3 from approx 1957? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hektor Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14891 Posted March 20, 2021 The air intake, if that is what it is, is not the same as the Facel Vegan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14892 Posted March 20, 2021 Yes and the mirrors do not fit. Could be another variant or another similar car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14893 Posted March 20, 2021 I was thinking about a Siata 208CS maybe? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14894 Posted March 20, 2021 Neither a Facel Vegan ( I like that ) nor a Siata, but both certainly from the same timeframe. For this shot I positioned myself exactly 180 degrees around the other side of the above image. This view contains a distinctive detail which should lead to the solution. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4164536'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14895 Posted March 20, 2021 Nash-Healey? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14896 Posted March 20, 2021 1 hour ago, a.j.z said: Nash-Healey? Andreas, no Anglo-American content............ this car is an all European effort. To assist in solving this, here's an enhanced shot of the 'ditinctive detail' I referred to above, i.e. the character lines above the wheel out-outs Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4164620'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14897 Posted March 20, 2021 (edited) Originally I was thinking of Maserati. Maybe a special model from the 50s? Edited March 20, 2021 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14898 Posted March 20, 2021 Not Italian - Yes, the car is from the '50s. If it will help without actually giving away the entire mystery, the idea for this car came from a famous Austrian who excerted a huge influence on the choice and nature of some of the most important post-war European cars built for and exported into the U.S. The attached should clinch it, I think. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4164680'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14899 Posted March 20, 2021 Cisitalia 202 from around 1952? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted March 20, 2021 Share #14900 Posted March 20, 2021 Noit a Siata, and not Italian. The Siata 202 was the company's main roadcar offering and was available as either the sexy 'Nuvolari' spyder or as an attractive two-seater coupe, whereas the car in question here was produced only as a roadster with a removable hardtop. Another clue to help solve this one. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! . Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! . ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4164816'>More sharing options...
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