John Z. Goriup Posted January 14, 2021 Share #14361 Posted January 14, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I believe it's a '37 or maybe a '38 6C 2300B MM................how far off ami I ? JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gmo Posted January 15, 2021 Share #14362 Posted January 15, 2021 John, the number of cylinders is correct but the year is off by a decade. It's 6C2500 Super Sport Spider Corsa of 1949. Picture taken at the same meeting in 2018. According to what I found on the net first license plate dates from 28 februari 1949 and imported into the Netherlands 23 April 1998. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Over to you. Gerd 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Over to you. Gerd ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4118611'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14363 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Thank you, Gerd. One has to remember that those were fraught times for the Italian automobile industry - there was no capital available to invest in new designs, therefore prewar models with a bit of tarting up had to do until factories could be rebuilt, gasoline became available again and most importantly, until a stable government could instill sufficient confidence in people to go out on a limb and buy any new products. There's no reason to doubt that the car shown was titled as a '49, but one look is enough to see that it's identical to the mid to late '30s 6C 2300 models, with minor changes in the grille and a redesign from two small folding screens to a single windshield. Even though I threatened to make it more difficult to identify my next 'puzzle car' , this is all I could come up with on short notice..................shouldn't be too hard. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 16, 2021 by John Z. Goriup 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4119004'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14364 Posted January 16, 2021 Ferrari 212 Spider? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14365 Posted January 16, 2021 Wilson, not Italian..........in fact, not from the continent. JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14366 Posted January 16, 2021 Looks like a Cobra but the mesh below the grille is a little odd Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14367 Posted January 16, 2021 Advertisement (gone after registration) I think it might be an Ace rather than a Cobra. Our Ace had a rather larger oil cooler for its very hot Bristol engine (172 BHP from the BS1-Mk.2 2 litre engine) but in the same position, however, without the ugly loudspeaker grille. Our 1965 Cobra has the oil cooler in the main radiator intake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14368 Posted January 16, 2021 1 hour ago, wlaidlaw said: I think it might be an Ace rather than a Cobra... I was wondering about the Ace (because of the smaller 'mouth') but a few posts ago John inferred it's not from Europe... Philip. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14369 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Well, the last time I have visited London the cab driver told me that he already has been to Europe on vacation 😉 and John mentioned the continent. Edited January 16, 2021 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pippy Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14370 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) 43 minutes ago, a.j.z said: Well, the last time I have visited London the cab driver told me that he already has been to Europe on vacation 😉 and John mentioned the continent. I'm not following your train of thought, Andreas. Obviously the UK is a part of the continent of Europe. Am I missing something important? A London cabbie not knowing from which continent he 'hails' perhaps (pun)? Sorry; I'm confused... Philip. Edited January 16, 2021 by pippy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14371 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) What I meant is that reference to the (European) continent does not necessarily include the islands. „In both Great Britain and Ireland, the Continent is widely and generally used to refer to the mainland of Europe.“ (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontinentaleuropa) John mentioned the continent and not Europe, but I still think it is some variant of the Cobra and not an Ace. And yes, a pun, but I (and others) had similar conversations in England and Ireland but they of course may not be representative (as I hope that nobody draws general conclusions from conversations with some cabbies in Vienna). Edited January 16, 2021 by a.j.z 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14372 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) Quote a.j.z.: What I meant is that reference to the (European) continent does not necessarily include the islands. „In both Great Britain and Ireland, the Continent is widely and generally used to refer to the mainland of Europe.“ (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kontinentaleuropa) John mentioned the continent and not Europe, but I still think it is some variant of the Cobra and not an Ace. ___________________________________________________________________________________________________________ That's the precise context in which I said "not from the continent" - Yes, this car is a product of the British isles, but no, it is neither an Ace, nor a Cobra, although it dates from the same time p[eriod. May I suggest taking a closer look at the 'box' which contains the oil-cooler - the shape and method of fabrication tells all about the material from which this body is made.......I suggest disregarding the mesh since this example of the car has been slightly modified for club-racing it's not exactly as it was when it rolled through the factory doors. To help solve the puzzle, here's another pictorial clue. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited January 16, 2021 by John Z. Goriup Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4119526'>More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14373 Posted January 16, 2021 (edited) ... Edited January 16, 2021 by a.j.z Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14374 Posted January 16, 2021 vor 21 Stunden schrieb John Z. Goriup: Even though I threatened to make it more difficult to identify my next 'puzzle car' , this is all I could come up with on short notice..................shouldn't be too hard. Well, if it is British and Wilson does not recognize it, it is hard! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14375 Posted January 16, 2021 Could it be a Le Mans HRG - a late type from 1955? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
a.j.z Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14376 Posted January 16, 2021 Allard? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted January 16, 2021 Share #14377 Posted January 16, 2021 Not an HRG nor an Allard. Since I posted the front end of this car in my post #14363, I've come to feel in retrospect that it is probably less than completely honest to use this detail since the car has obviously been slightly modified for racing. with the addition of the opening and the mesh screen to house the oil-cooler. Therefore, I am posting the last visual clue of another detail of the car, one which I know with absolute certainty has not been touched from original. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4119578'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted January 17, 2021 Share #14378 Posted January 17, 2021 With some (heavy) modifications an Elva (Courier) could look similar in some details. But if you would buy a Peerless GT you´d have it easier. And if you ask Ron Cressey or his son Paul they might take you on a little tour around the block in this 1959 riddle car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted January 17, 2021 Share #14379 Posted January 17, 2021 It is indeed a Peerless GT. Your turn. JZG Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 3 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=4119665'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted January 17, 2021 Share #14380 Posted January 17, 2021 You can still buy a new body and chassis for a Peerless, if you wanted to build one today.A friend in the early 1970's put a BMW 2002Tii engine and gearbox in one and it was surprisingly quick. His next project to put a Fiat Dino engine in a Gilbern, was considerably less of a success! Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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