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[NigelG]

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Fantastic looking machine...the Vignale Cisitalia CMM was the only design I could think of with "portholes" and a roof mounted wiper - and the later rear wing/light image looked quite Siata-ish. Off to read a bit more on 50's MM specials!

 

[a.j.z]

Thanks, John! Very nice car!

I had been on the right track and looked for Mille Miglia cars and even had considered the 250 but did not find a matching photo and the 225 I found appeared to be closer.

And now for something completely different

 

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[stuny]

The rear view mirror and steering wheel suggest something recent, but that's as far as I can go.  Probably European.

[a.j.z]

Yes, recent European

[John Z. Goriup]

I'm pretty sure we're looking at a 2020 PORSCHE Taycan.

tested one, and as beguiling and as full of innovative 'solutions' a vehicle as it may be, my 50-year relationship with some of the fastest & sportiest internal combustion Porsches is too strongly ingrained to embrace such a departure from all the reasons I enjoyed Porsches.... and then there's the price !! 

Hope I guessed correctly after making such a pompous statement, otherwise I did little more than prove Wolfgang von Göthe right yet again - "it is better to remain silent and be thought of a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt".

JZG 

 

[a.j.z]

Yes, indeed, a Taycan. 

I also do not really know, what to make of it.  Did not drive one yet, though. It appears to be too much of a compromise. Although one sits like in a sports car it maybe is not a replacement for a 911 that you drive for fun. As a family car that you use for longer trips it is too small on the other hand and a hybrid Cayenne probably makes more sense.

Back to you, John.

 

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[wlaidlaw]

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I have been invited (and accepted) to go to the UK launch on 2 April for the Taycan. My brother has one on order for June delivery but there are mutterings of delivery delays. Maybe they are improving battery safety and charging control software. https://electrek.co/2020/02/17/porsche-taycan-fire-burning-garage-florida/ The software on my Panamera e-Hybrid has been anything but problem free, with lots of odd glitches and it is only now, some two and half years on, that they have sorted most of the issues. 

Wilson

[John Z. Goriup]

The next great mystery............. I have removed the grille badge, since its shape and color would have been a dead giveaway, even if had only smudged the name. It's one of a series of coachbuilder constructed production cars, designed with the thought in mind to compete directly with the country's other luxury brand model..........and quite historic, since it was specifically created for one of history's more famous, flamboyant and notorious figures.

Take your time, gentlemen, because I've been spending way too much time here lately and have fallen behing in my domestic chores..,...and spring is really springing here.

JZG 

 

 

 

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[stuny]

Back to the Taycan, Autoweek dinged it for its very limited range - about 170 miles If I recall.

[stuny]

French?

[wlaidlaw]

I  have seen a similar cars at a car meet in France which used a Hotchkiss 686 chassis with bodies by Veth et fils or Pourtout. I have also seen one using a UNIC chassis but I think that was a one off. 

Wilson

[John Z. Goriup]

Not French. Please note location of the steering wheel...and remember that prior to WWW II, some  countries in continental Europe also drove on the left side of the road.

JZG

[wlaidlaw]

Maybe a Lancia Astura II with a Castagna body? Did Mussolini have one of these? The Astura is a lovely car to drive with light and accurate steering, unlike so many other pre-war exotica (Mercedes 540K, Talbot-Lago etc). 

Wilson

PS  Pre-war the rule of the road in Italy was set by the region/state not nationally, so some drove on the left and some on the right. In some states there were independant cities who owed allegiance to a different state to their geographical location, so you could be driving on the left (UK style) out in the country but as you came into the city, you would have to change over to driving on the right (US/European style). As you can imagine the accident rate was not insignificant and the Italians solved the issue by always driving in the middle of the road. During the late war occupation period, the US Army introduced universal drive on the right rule to try and reduce the accident rate. W

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[John Z. Goriup]

A 1933 / 35 Lancia Astura Aerodinamico Castagna Coupe is exactly what this is. Well done !

The body on this particular car started out as the 1934 Salon de Milano show car on an Alfa-Romeo 8C 2300 Lungo ( long) chassis. At the show, Mussolini, with his sons in attendance, saw it and  was immediately stricken with it. He bought it for his son Bruno, who had just turned 16 ( and shortly therafter went on to become Italy's youngest pilot ) with instructions to mount the body on the shorter wheelbase Lancia chassis with their new 2.6 liter narrow-angle V-8. This was the only 'corto' ( short ) chassis example built by Castagna of the four Astura II chassis the coachbuilder bodied with their sensational Aerodinamico body.

A total of 750 Astura IIs were built, many of them with 'carrozzeria' supplied coachwork. Even though Lancia was the first manufacturer to introduce 'monocoque' construction in their previous Lambda series, one of the major changes to the Astura design was the return to a steel frame, to facilitate having the chassis bodied by coachbuilders for more demanding clients. At the same event where I saw this car, the 2016 Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance, another Astura, a 1936 Pinin Farina Cabriolet took 'Best of Show'. It had been owned at one time by Eric Clapton, who stated that it was " the most fun I've had offstage and out of bed", presumably echoing Wilson's comments about handling & lightness of steering. 

You're up next, W.

JZG

 

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[John Z. Goriup]

.....and another view from the rear.

Studying the proportions, details, how the transition from main body to fenders was resolved, the virtually round sidewindow, I couldn't help thinking and  speculating that this specific car / design probably influenced Jean Bugatti's ideas for his immortal  'Atlantic' series of coupes.

Thanks for playing,

JZG

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[wlaidlaw]

Thanks John for posting that lovely car. It does have similarities to the Bugatti 57SC Gangloff Coupé that we used to have but I suspect would be a much nicer car to drive than the somewhat agricultural 57, albeit probably not as quick. Here is your next one. Make and model please and it may not be as easy as it would appear at first glance. 

Wilson

 

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[a.j.z]

French?

[John Z. Goriup]

My initial thought was that this had to be an early Bentley ( 1922 -25 ) based on the knock-offs and general details, spcifically the 'Hawkeye Special', but there are enough significant differences that I had to dismiss the idea.

To my eyes the controls do not look like they're part of any Bugatti, and I can't think of an Italian car that might fit the visual clues shown. Turning to the 'secondary' British marques, i.e. HRG, ERA, and other Brooklands era machines I again came up empty.

I'll have to wait for a better man to come up with the right answer.

JZGH

[wlaidlaw]

1 hour ago, a.j.z said:

French?

Not French, not even a little bit. 

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[a.j.z]

Then British?