stuny Posted May 13, 2015 Share #7481 Posted May 13, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) John - Very nicely done regarding recognizing the badge and picking one of the models from that era. Close, but still not quite there. Here's another view, plus an unmolested first view: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2815461'>More sharing options...
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stuny Posted May 13, 2015 Share #7482 Posted May 13, 2015 John - Well done with the marque and era, but no, not a Terraplane. Here's a broader view, as well as an unmolested first view, which was my favorite photo from the auto show: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2815531'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 14, 2015 Share #7483 Posted May 14, 2015 Stuart, Is that a Hudson 112? My family had Essex cars, part of the Hudson family, from around 1919, when the Ford Model T went, to when my Grandfather bought the dreadful Hillman Straight Eight in the late 1920's. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted May 14, 2015 Share #7484 Posted May 14, 2015 Correct marque, incorrect model and period. Perhaps some more images. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2816232'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 14, 2015 Share #7485 Posted May 14, 2015 Stuart, is that model called "The Rumbleseat Roadster 65" from about 1935/36? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted May 15, 2015 Share #7486 Posted May 15, 2015 Well done, Wilson. Even though it has a rumble seat, "Rumbleseat Roadster" was the popular name. the company name was 1936 Hudson 65 Custom 8. Your turn. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 16, 2015 Share #7487 Posted May 16, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Here is your next one. Not too difficult I think. I also show a picture of another one I had my final drive of yesterday, after its engine and gearbox rebuild and before it goes off to be sold. A 250GT California Spyder Mk.2. Very much of a "looking at", "listening to" and buying or selling rather than driving car. Not very nice to drive at all, with very heavy steering, "interesting handling and as far as the Dunlop disc brakes are concerned, I believe they are better than the drums on the Mk.1 cars but that is about it. Like all Dunlop discs, they have a habit of coming on one wheel at a time. The rebuilders swore that they had cured it by precision machining new pistons and lapping the caliper bores. The cure has lasted about 500 miles before situation normal resumed. First of its four gears is very high (over 80kph at 7500 RPM) and together with a very light flywheel and very heavy clutch, made driving in heavy traffic yesterday a bit of a nightmare. Someone came up to me just outside St Tropez and said "that is a fantastic reproduction, it even sounds like a Ferrari." I told him the sound came out of the loudspeakers Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2816950'>More sharing options...
stuny Posted May 17, 2015 Share #7488 Posted May 17, 2015 Yes, #2 is wonderful to look at, and they sell for quite a high price considering how they drive. Could the puzzle car be from Germany? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 17, 2015 Share #7489 Posted May 17, 2015 Yes, #2 is wonderful to look at, and they sell for quite a high price considering how they drive. Could the puzzle car be from Germany? Stuart, The puzzle car is partially from Germany. We came to the conclusion on #2 that its value far exceeded the pleasure got from driving it, so better to sell and buy something else that is nicer to drive. It is now worth more than four times what it was bought for. In retrospect, there are not that many nice to drive GT cars that came out of the 1950's. An Aston Martin DB2-4 Mk.3, Maserati A6GCS, Porsche 356 and a Lancia Aurelia GT are about the only ones I can think of that are a delight to drive. Road Ferraris did not really get good until the Lusso. I am lobbying to add a Lancia B24 America Spider with Nardi engine, to the fleet (in mint green of course ) and we are also on the trail of a Porsche 356 Carrera 2 Cabriolet (full height windscreen one). Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
maximilianm3 Posted May 18, 2015 Share #7490 Posted May 18, 2015 BMW 328 or the english version of it? how about a BMW 503 for a 50's GT? it looks nice, has good mechanics and can be quite reliable. It's not exactly 'sporty' but supremely comfortable (apart from the cramped footwell and offset pedals). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 18, 2015 Share #7491 Posted May 18, 2015 BMW 328 or the english version of it? how about a BMW 503 for a 50's GT? it looks nice, has good mechanics and can be quite reliable. It's not exactly 'sporty' but supremely comfortable (apart from the cramped footwell and offset pedals). It is indeed a BMW 328. This is quite a famous car. It did the 1939 Monte Carlo Rally as part of the Frazer Nash team and then was bought in 1946/7 by Betty Haig, the great niece of Field Marshall Douglas Haig, who raced, hill climbed and rallied it extensively and successfully up until the late 1950's. Like most BMW 328 engines, by 1947 it was giving problems and in 1948, it had an early Bristol 2 litre engine and all synchromesh gearbox installed in its place. The Bristol engine was in effect the BMW engine, with the metallurgy and lubrication sorted out. Bristol, with their very extensive experience making very high powered piston aero engines (Centaurus etc) and the early turbojet engines, were eminently qualified to do this. The old saying was BMW designed the engine but Bristol made it run. This one is producing around 140BHP at 6100 RPM, which with the extremely light bodywork, makes for a very quick car indeed and it has excellent handling. FIA recognise this car as original even with the Bristol engine + gearbox, as that was how it was raced and rallied in period. We have looked on a number of occasions at a BMW 507, the sports car version of the 503. However, they are expensive to buy due to extreme rarity. Very few are now original due to rust on panels and fragility of the engine. They are quite slow in comparison to a Mercedes 300SL, which are about the same price and are nicer to drive, if not in my view, wonderful. The 300SL roadster is a lot nicer than the Gullwing. We also have a pre-war BMW 319 roadster that looks like Noddy's car (Enid Blyton), that is an absolute delight to drive. It must have a very tweaked engine because it is quite quick as well. Sorry it is only half a car but I just spotted it on the edge of another photograph. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2818022'>More sharing options...
maximilianm3 Posted May 21, 2015 Share #7492 Posted May 21, 2015 Compared to the Ferrari a 507 is relatively cheap no? I don't have pictures so it's a first come first serve situation...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 21, 2015 Share #7493 Posted May 21, 2015 A really good 507 is now over €800,000, about the same as the better Mercedes 300SL Roadster. We have already a 300SL Roadster in the collection plus two great BMW's, a 1936 319 rally car and a 1939 racing 328, both with great history. We don't therefore feel the need to add another fragile BMW, which does not even drive very well. As we both get older we are thinning out the collection to cars which look great, drive well and add something to the collection. Two out of three is not enough, which is why the Bugatti 57SC Gangloff Coupé has gone and the 250GT Cal Spider is going as well and maybe the 275 GTB/4 NART Spider as well. We find that cars which don't drive very well become garage queens, which is just not what we do. All our cars get used regularly for long distance competitive rallying. My brother is driving in a round Ireland Rolls Royce Silver Ghost Rally at this moment, in a 1911 London to Edinburgh sports model (and getting very wet from what I have seen of the weather), since its weather protection is primitive. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted May 21, 2015 Share #7494 Posted May 21, 2015 This one should be easy. I first saw one when I was quite young, and liked it more then than I do now. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2820036'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 22, 2015 Share #7495 Posted May 22, 2015 Austin-Nash Metropolitan? Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted May 22, 2015 Share #7496 Posted May 22, 2015 Yes, Your turn. I was quite surprised to find it parked on a residential street in the Murray Hill section of Manhattan. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2820187'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 22, 2015 Share #7497 Posted May 22, 2015 My mother wanted an Austin Metropolitan in the mid 1950's but my father said "absolutely not - they are awful cars." Then he went and bought her a new Hillman Minx California Coupé (not to be confused with a Ferrari 250GT California ), which might have been even worse than the Austin Metropolitan. It was just like the one below in the same colours of pale and dark sludge green but with lots more parking scars. It had a very vague column gear change, which allied to my mother's chronic inability to change gears at the best of times, without making awful crunching noises, made for an interesting passenger experience. We used to make any excuse not to be driven by her. Luckily it only had a very feeble 1300cc side valve engine, so at least her frequent accidents were all at low speed. I will look for another puzzle car later today. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2820232'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 22, 2015 Share #7498 Posted May 22, 2015 I am slightly cheating on this one because I have used my M240 (and 35 Summicron ASPH) to copy an old post card. I am going to show the whole car as this is a really difficult one. I suspect that Ronald may be the only person who will know this odd F1 car. I have seen it referred to only once in the many racing car books I have read, I think probably with a similar photo to the one in the post card. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2820385'>More sharing options...
John Z. Goriup Posted May 22, 2015 Share #7499 Posted May 22, 2015 Interesting ! My first reaction is to say that I see more than a casual resemblance to the Porsche-Cisitalia 360 GP car, which was a late 40s exercise, but I also think that this design may have been started in the late '30……perhaps during the M-B vs. Auto Union wars, only to be interupted by the 'outbreak of hostilities'. The men all look like Adolph Hilter, so perhaps there's some german content there. Personally I feel the thing is too small to be a full-blown Grand Prix car, since that was the era of big motors, ala Silver Arrows. The outward appearance in my eyes reveals a rear mid-engined, flat motor design ( evidenced by the very wide rear portion of the car & the air intakes next to the driver's headrest ) steel tube space frame with alum. body ( state-of-the-art back in the day ). Also please note the side-mounted fuel tanks held on by straps next to and on either side of the driver ( a favored design feature of Ferdinand and Ferry Porsche to prevent changes in handling as fuel was consumed, and also to appear in the fifties on the Lancia / Ferrari D50 ). The through-the-hood fuel filler cap in the front lid tells me that that is where the fuel or the oil was poured in, and with space required for the driver's legs and the water and / or oil radiator / cooling arrangement ( witness the 'twin nostrils' in the front ) there's simply not sufficient volume left for a power train. To me the big mystery is presented by the front suspension. At first glance it seems to be a VW style twin trailing arm set-up but on second thought I don't think it is - looks more like a Morgan three-wheeler sliding-sleeve arrangement with a transverse leaf spring connecting the two uprights. That could imply British lineage since it was quite popular in British hill-climb cars of the era, but I just don't think an English car of that period would feature all those other charcteristics, nor would it be that aerodynamic. The wire wheels don't help a bit because they were de rigueur in the day. I'd wager L.K. Sethright would have instantly identified this thing…..maybe even had a hand in it. At days end, lots of hypothesies, but I can't come up with a specific marque. Good Luck everyone JZG Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted May 22, 2015 Share #7500 Posted May 22, 2015 Interesting ! My first reaction is to say that I see more than a casual resemblance to the Porsche-Cisitalia 360 GP car, which was a late 40s exercise, but I also think that this design may have been started in the late '30……perhaps during the M-B vs. Auto Union wars, only to be interupted by the 'outbreak of hostilities'. The men all look like Adolph Hilter, so perhaps there's some german content there. Personally I feel the thing is too small to be a full-blown Grand Prix car, since that was the era of big motors, ala Silver Arrows. The outward appearance in my eyes reveals a rear mid-engined, flat motor design ( evidenced by the very wide rear portion of the car & the air intakes next to the driver's headrest ) steel tube space frame with alum. body ( state-of-the-art back in the day ). Also please note the side-mounted fuel tanks held on by straps next to and on either side of the driver ( a favored design feature of Ferdinand and Ferry Porsche to prevent changes in handling as fuel was consumed, and also to appear in the fifties on the Lancia / Ferrari D50 ). The through-the-hood fuel filler cap in the front lid tells me that that is where the fuel or the oil was poured in, and with space required for the driver's legs and the water and / or oil radiator / cooling arrangement ( witness the 'twin nostrils' in the front ) there's simply not sufficient volume left for a power train. To me the big mystery is presented by the front suspension. At first glance it seems to be a VW style twin trailing arm set-up but on second thought I don't think it is - looks more like a Morgan three-wheeler sliding-sleeve arrangement with a transverse leaf spring connecting the two uprights. That could imply British lineage since it was quite popular in British hill-climb cars of the era, but I just don't think an English car of that period would feature all those other charcteristics, nor would it be that aerodynamic. The wire wheels don't help a bit because they were de rigueur in the day. I'd wager L.K. Sethright would have instantly identified this thing…..maybe even had a hand in it. At days end, lots of hypothesies, but I can't come up with a specific marque. Good Luck everyone JZG John, Not a flat engine and not an aluminium body/chassis. The engine was designed to come in various sizes from 1.5L supercharged to 4.5L (via 2L and 2.5L). The specs of the 1.5L are totally jaw dropping, with 22:1 CR and 57PSI boost from twin stage roots sequential blowers, running on iso-octane fuel, whatever that is, supposedly producing over 500 BHP. I think this picture is of the 2 litre non-supercharged car. I agree that there must have been some influence from the Cisitalia GP cars. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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