wlaidlaw Posted March 11, 2013 Share #4681 Posted March 11, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Studebaker Taxi 3 (Model Champion) Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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stuny Posted March 11, 2013 Share #4682 Posted March 11, 2013 Correct, from 1950 or 1951, a Raymond Loewy design. Your turn. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2268376'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 11, 2013 Share #4683 Posted March 11, 2013 Must have been a touch cuddly in the back of those Studebakers! OK if it was your girlfriend but not if it was your boss or your mother in law. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 13, 2013 Share #4684 Posted March 13, 2013 For 10 points your next car. I want the make, the model and who the two famous original drivers of it would have been. I think Ronald should excuse himself from this one, as he knows the car and the driver in it when this photo was taken Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2270680'>More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted March 15, 2013 Share #4685 Posted March 15, 2013 Wilson, I'm skiing, no cars around Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted March 16, 2013 Share #4686 Posted March 16, 2013 Ferrari 312 PB? Have absolutely no clues to drivers but how about Ickx and Redman and possibly Andretti? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 16, 2013 Share #4687 Posted March 16, 2013 Advertisement (gone after registration) Correct John. Here is the photo from which I cropped and another taken the same day, while we were testing at Guadix in Spain in 2010. Unfortunately, every one of us who drove the 312PB that day, ended up in the gravel. The newly and very expensively Ferrari refreshed 3 litre flat 12 engine, was giving a huge burst of power, when you came off the brakes. It was very cold at Guadix and on tyres which we could not get the fronts up to temperature, this was not a lot of fun. We had two Ferrari experts including Tim Samways there and I am fairly good with Lucas mechanical rotary fuel pumps. We could not solve it in the two days we were there and stopped testing this car before we had a really big "off". We had three other cars there to test (Ferrari 250LM, Maserati 250S and Chevron B16) anyway. In the end the engine went back to Ferrari and, as the car was sold soon after that, I don't know what the answer finally was. Ronald knows this car reasonably well and also the driver in the car at the time of the photographs, which is why I asked him not to answer. These old racers are very fragile. One of the cars we were supposed to be testing with the others for the historic Le Mans, an Alfa Romeo 8C2600 Corsa, developed a supercharger lubrication problem, as it was being driven towards the transporter to be taken down to Spain. The brand new Richardson FVC engine in the Chevron developed a horrible misfire, which instantly cleared as you reached 7000RPM. I was doing most of the testing of this one and on a cold and damp track, that also got quite exciting. However unlike the 312PB, the Chevron is very forgiving and it is on treaded tyres, so you are not going anything like as fast. You got all the drivers except the one for this car, who was Ronnie Peterson. Your turn. Wilson Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 2 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2273291'>More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted March 17, 2013 Share #4688 Posted March 17, 2013 Thanks, Wilson. Looks like you've driven some interesting and exotic machinery! This next riddle car might be quite so fast and exotic but it certainly qualifies as being rare. From the picture, you can tell that it's a Ferrari with a Scaglietti body - that's the easy part. It is unrestored and you might say that it is a "sheep in wolf's clothing" and is not what one would normally think it is. I'd like the model number. Hint: it has Marelli magnetos numbered 30 & 32. Good guessing, boys. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2274632'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 17, 2013 Share #4689 Posted March 17, 2013 Monza 750, the 3 litre 4 cylinder successor to the Monza 500. A very under-rated car. On anything other than a very fast track, they are faster than the later V12 Testarossas. The main problem is the engine, which like the similar 3 litre 4 cylinder Maserati engine in the T61 birdcage, is very tractor like and the vibration, which at certain revs can make your vision go blurred, tends to break things and make them fall off. That was the main reason to go to the V12 for long distance racing. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted March 17, 2013 Share #4690 Posted March 17, 2013 Wilson, everything you say about the 750 is quite correct, but this is not the model of the car in the photo. Much, much earlier than that and this car is a two liter while being a "sheep in wolf's clothing." This is may be difficult as this car is rare. I'll give more hints as we go along. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2013 Share #4691 Posted March 18, 2013 John, I did wonder as most 750's have a faired housing behind the driver's head but it did have the droop snoot, so I went for a 750. I suppose therefore it must be a 735S. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted March 18, 2013 Share #4692 Posted March 18, 2013 Beautiful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted March 18, 2013 Share #4693 Posted March 18, 2013 (edited) I did wonder as most 750's have a faired housing behind the driver's head but it did have the droop snoot, so I went for a 750. I suppose therefore it must be a 735S. Sorry, Wilson. Wrong car and coachbuilder. Also older. I'll give this ome more guess then add another visual clue. This car is a one of a kind, with older chassis and drivetrain mated to a newer body. My apologies if this is too esoteric. Another hint - the original car had quite a racing history being driven by, I believe, Farina and Sommer. Edited March 18, 2013 by J_Thompson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2013 Share #4694 Posted March 18, 2013 John, So many of these old Ferrari's look like different models due to later re-bodying. I had a 1954 375MM, which as it had a pontoon body from 1958 (not Scaglietti but a no name copy), you would swear was a Testarossa 250TR until put alongside and you realised how much bigger it was. I bought it in 1964 for £600 and sold it 5 months later for £400 to Chequered Flag in London (it was not in good condition). That same car, fully restored, fetched $3.5M a few years ago - ouch! My last try - a 166 Spyder Corsa, one of which my book says was re-bodied by Scaglietti in 1956 with basically a 250TR non-pontoon body. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted March 18, 2013 Share #4695 Posted March 18, 2013 Wilson, congratulations, you nailed it! I was begining to think that this was not a fair contest as I was offering up a riddle car of which there was only one example produced. This is indeed a 166 Spider Corsa, s/n 014i, built in 1948 and, after an extensive competition history, rebodied in 1955-56. The new owner then moved to Santa Barbara, California and brought the car with him. It has remained in this area ever since. I first saw it at the Monterey historic races in 1994 and was immediately smitten. Interesting story about your 375MM and its life after your brief ownership. I have a photo somewhere of TR 0666, which was the Testa Rosa protoype, at a June, 1961 Laguna Seca club race (where it raced against Jim Hall's Chaparral Mk I in its inaugural outing). That Ferrari sold for $16.4 million a year and a half ago. Back to you and again nice work on your scholarly efforts. And here's a link to an article on 014i and a few more pictures. FCA Southwest Region - Sempre Ferrari Articles John Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2275672'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 18, 2013 Share #4696 Posted March 18, 2013 Wilson, congratulations, you nailed it! I was begining to think that this was not a fair contest as I was offering up a riddle car of which there was only one example produced. This is indeed a 166 Spider Corsa, s/n 014i, built in 1948 and, after an extensive competition history, rebodied in 1955-56. The new owner then moved to Santa Barbara, California and brought the car with him. It has remained in this area ever since. I first saw it at the Monterey historic races in 1994 and was immediately smitten. Interesting story about your 375MM and its life after your brief ownership. I have a photo somewhere of TR 0666, which was the Testa Rosa protoype, at a June, 1961 Laguna Seca club race (where it raced against Jim Hall's Chaparral Mk I in its inaugural outing). That Ferrari sold for $16.4 million a year and a half ago. Back to you and again nice work on your scholarly efforts. And here's a link to an article on 014i and a few more pictures. FCA Southwest Region - Sempre Ferrari Articles John John, Thanks for posting those photos. I rather like historic race cars like these with a patina of use on them. So many nowadays are prefect in every way and far better than when they were new. The worst example of this is Adrian Newey's Ford GT40, which is all made out of titanium in Red Bull's F1 workshops. I will try and find a real puzzler for you tomorrow. Wilson 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J_Thompson Posted March 19, 2013 Share #4697 Posted March 19, 2013 Wilson, I'm glad you enjoyed those shots and agree with you completely on the over restoration issue, especially with racing cars. The worst example I can recall was a Maserati Tipo 61 that looked completely unlike anything the factory ever produced. The immaculate bodywork and paint job alone cost much more than the entire car ever did when new, while the wheels had polished aluminum rims with chrome spokes. At any rate, here's another picture of s/n 041i with its unusual snakeskin covered seats, all original as you can see. The previous long-time owner could have easily afforded to do a complete restoration, but wisely chose not to, much to his credit. Here’s a thought. Maybe those guys who over restore their cars should hire guys like us to add a little patina to their pride and joys. I’d gladly do it for $500 per lap plus travel expenses. John Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/119687-name-this-car/?do=findComment&comment=2275919'>More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 19, 2013 Share #4698 Posted March 19, 2013 John, The only problem is that I don't think it would pass scrutineering if you wanted to race it in Europe. I don't mind cars looking cosmetically a bit scruffy but loose wires trailing about and instruments missing pointers offends my engineering bump. My 1977 911 RSR would not come close to winning any concours d'elegance but everything works and is at least clean, neat and tidy. Wilson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted March 19, 2013 Share #4699 Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) Gents, pardon me for posting this here, but this is the place for car nuts. Anyone considering buying the W196 for sale in Goodwood? I think I have to sell my Leica collection and cancel the M240 orders now Had a test sitting in one of it's sister models and it amazed me even more than most cameras did (My girl will also suggest me to sell one of the boats as well for having more space) Edited March 19, 2013 by Rona|d Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted March 19, 2013 Share #4700 Posted March 19, 2013 (edited) That might break the record for single seat cars. I would guess it is the only one not owned by Daimler Benz. Even very rare single seat cars don't fetch as much as one might feel they ought to. With Ferrari 250GTO's now approaching $38M, this might look like a positive bargain. The desmodromic valve gear on 8 cylinders is probably great fun to adjust. I remember spending a whole week-end trying to adjust the valve gear on the single cylinder of my brother in law's 350cc Ducati Desmo. You adjusted one thing and the other two adjustments immediately went out. Thanks for posting Ronald. I will have to ask my friend Anthony Maclean of Bonhams if he managed to get a drive of it. He used to race a Lancia D50, the W196's only real competitor. Classic Driver - MAGAZINE - features Wilson Edited March 19, 2013 by wlaidlaw 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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