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Wilson, correct - over to you again!

 

I understand that the 804 (successor of the 718) was the only Porsche designed specifically for the F1. It was used in the season of 1962.

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.....and now for something completely different:

 

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De Dion Bouton?

 

Most De Dion Boutons are made in France although there admittedly were a few (very few) made under licence in Brooklyn, NY, USA. However, this is not one of them.

 

This is very famous example of this model and is a significant record holder. Here is a picture of nearly all of it.

 

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Eagle cars in Uckfield is only about 15 minutes away from my UK base.

 

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I remember a very young Paul Brace from a BBC2 1989 programme 'The Great Chase' (which I've still got on VHS) on the first Pirelli Class Car Rally in 1988. Brace entered a Porsche 911 which he had totally rebuilt himself and did very well against stiff competition. I think it was during this event he met Henry Pearman. I always thought Brace would do well later on in life.

 

(an extract but Brace does not appear)

 

 

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Hello Wilson,

A Winton 1903. Horation Nelson Jackson and his driving partner Sewall Crocker crossing the United State in 64 days, and I almost forgot the dog named Bud!

Winton Motor Carriage Company ceased automobile production in 1924, but was in june 1930 a part of GM. Later Detroit Engine.

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Hello Wilson,

A Winton 1903. Horation Nelson Jackson and his driving partner Sewall Crocker crossing the United State in 64 days, and I almost forgot the dog named Bud!

Winton Motor Carriage Company ceased automobile production in 1924, but was in june 1930 a part of GM. Later Detroit Engine.

 

Well done! I was beginning to think nobody had visited the Smithsonian Museum of American History except me. Here is the full photo. Poor old Bud and Horatio look a bit over exposed but to get the details of the car, I had to use 1/45/f2.8 on the 35 Summilux and ISO 640 plus this was still an M8.

 

I believe the model of Winton is a 2 cylinder 20HP Vermont Touring Car. In retrospect quite a good choice, as it was reasonably powerful but still quite light. If they had chosen a more powerful 4 or 6 cylinder car e.g. Mercedes or Spyker, they might not have been able to drag it across the more difficult patches.

 

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I must admit that I have never been to the U.S., but had to dig a lot.

Is it fotomontage or is it the original car at the museum?

I currently do not have access to all my slides of cars, but found some prints from 1982 that I photographed.

I think this is easy. Make, model and year?

 

 

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Bugatti but which one?

 

I would probably for a 35A but fitted with a later supercharger (the odd device driven off the back of the camshaft). The original supercharged cars, the 35B and C had a supercharger driven off the accessory jack shaft, which was in turn gear driven off the crankshaft.

 

35 Bugatti's are the ultimate nightmare of use and ownership. They use needle roller bearings on the crankshaft. When you are starting from cold, it is very easy for these to skid, rather than rotate, so you have to warm up very carefully, using hotter spark plugs to avoid sooting and unburnt fuel running down into the crankcase. If the rollers skid, the crank will be damaged very quickly. You still really need to use castor oil based lubricant (Castrol R), if you have a car that retains its roller bearings (a lot have been converted to modern shell bearings with a high pressure oil system). This oil also does not emulsify if you are running on methanol based fuel. The downside is that this oil forms a horrible sticky varnish inside the engine, so it needs to be regularly stripped down to clean it out. Every time after you have finished running, you need to flush the methanol out of the fuel system with ordinary petrol/gasoline, as methanol is hydroscopic and the resulting water/methanol mix is very corrosive. The 35 is one of the few vintage cars that I definitely would never want to own.

 

The later plain bearing type 51, is much easier to use, as it will run perfectly happily on Avgas and is faster into the bargain. Its only downside is poor brakes, like most Bugattis until the type 57.

 

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Bugatti but not 35. And same car cold starting....:D

 

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It looks to be quite an early one and not a GP car with that dickey seat, so I am going to plump for a type 38. I thought about a 43 but most of those had the alloy wheels rather than spoked.

 

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Wilson, you are almost there, 1925 Type 30, not Grand Prix but Grand Sport.

Link where it is today

 

I was going to say Type 30 due to the narrow wheels but I thought I had seen a curve to the bottom of the radiator surround on your crop, which would have made it the otherwise almost mechanically identical type 38 (sad person that I am to know these things). The radiator of the 30 is still the earlier chicken wishbone shape, rather than the later horseshoe of the 38 - see photos below. Do you know that 30? I would be interested to know about the "aftermarket" supercharger that seems to have been fitted to it. That seems a most unusual device and I would have thought it would have put huge strain on the camshaft drive gears.

 

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