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Two more examples, no masterpieces but they show the very good colour rendition (without saturation tweaking) and the slightly softish sharpness of this nice lens.

 

The first shot is odd insofar, that I used a Leitz 13352 polarizer, which happens to fit snugly on this lens. I always shoot in 'A'-mode. For some reason (polarizer?), the camera chose ISO320 although there was plenty of light.

 

M8 1939 Summitar 2/50 uncoated f3.5 1/1000s ISO320 polfilter

 

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The second one is a 50% crop of a snapshot of a little boy waiting for his mummy outside a fashion shop.

 

M8 1939 Summitar 2/50 uncoated f2.2 1/1000s ISO160 no filter

 

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The first shot is odd insofar, that I used a Leitz 13352 polarizer, which happens to fit snugly on this lens. I always shoot in 'A'-mode. For some reason (polarizer?), the camera chose ISO320 although there was plenty of light.

 

M8 1939 Summitar 2/50 uncoated f3.5 1/1000s ISO320 polfilter

 

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That's a gorgeous shot! ISO320=YUMMY in this case!

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Could somebody point me to a good rundown on fast classic lenses?

 

I am torn for some time now in getting a f 1.4 35mm (current CV, old Summilux, current/old Lux ASPH).

 

Since I love the 35 Summaron so much for it's size, weight, look and usability, I'd be tempted, to get a nice classic fast lens (preferably 35, but also 50mm).

 

It should be a well available user lens, no collectible.

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Could somebody point me to a good rundown on fast classic lenses?

 

I am torn for some time now in getting a f 1.4 35mm (current CV, old Summilux, current/old Lux ASPH).

 

Since I love the 35 Summaron so much for it's size, weight, look and usability, I'd be tempted, to get a nice classic fast lens (preferably 35, but also 50mm).

 

It should be a well available user lens, no collectible.

 

Erwin Puts at Home or for a paid site, ReidReviews.com

 

In about 3 months would be an ideal time to buy a current 35 ASPH Lux, as quite a few will be being traded in for new ones. Mine will not be one of them, as I am lucky enough to have got one of the near perfect ones, which I am guessing would be only marginally improved on by a new generation one. The only downside of mine is the weight, as it is a chrome/brass bodied one.

 

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1958 90mm Elmar, bargain basement £45 lens complete came complete with free fogging and black specs inside!

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Erwin Puts at Home or for a paid site, ReidReviews.com

 

In about 3 months would be an ideal time to buy a current 35 ASPH Lux, as quite a few will be being traded in for new ones. Mine will not be one of them, as I am lucky enough to have got one of the near perfect ones, which I am guessing would be only marginally improved on by a new generation one. The only downside of mine is the weight, as it is a chrome/brass bodied one.

 

Wilson

 

Thanks for the tip Wilson.

 

Unfortunately, Erwin Puts doesn't seem, to give much comments on the lenses, that fit the bill for me now.

 

I will give Sean Reid's site another look, as I am a subscriber (if only looking for a specific item on his site would be easier).

 

Stephen Gandy's site has been of great help for me regarding this, but I wish, to find a bit more specific tips and guidance regarding fast, old lenses around 35 − 50 mm.

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Thanks for the tip Wilson.

 

Unfortunately, Erwin Puts doesn't seem, to give much comments on the lenses, that fit the bill for me now.

 

I will give Sean Reid's site another look, as I am a subscriber (if only looking for a specific item on his site would be easier).

 

Stephen Gandy's site has been of great help for me regarding this, but I wish, to find a bit more specific tips and guidance regarding fast, old lenses around 35 − 50 mm.

 

Another good source of information on older Leica stuff is Paul-Henry van Hasbroeck's excellent and very comprehensive book on every model, accessory and lens (Christmas present from one of my daughters 2 years ago).

 

Wilson

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Could somebody point me to a good rundown on fast classic lenses?

 

I am torn for some time now in getting a f 1.4 35mm (current CV, old Summilux, current/old Lux ASPH).

 

Since I love the 35 Summaron so much for it's size, weight, look and usability, I'd be tempted, to get a nice classic fast lens (preferably 35, but also 50mm).

 

It should be a well available user lens, no collectible.

 

The old Summilux 35 is risky to use wide open (depending on light conditions, one can find a strong flare) ... but if you love the 35 Summaron... :), well it's a sort of luxury version of it, same fantastic compactness with just a bit more of "gem" look (expecially the chrome) ; practical issues : no cheap if very good, 1st version is problematic about hood (OLLUX - difficult to find) and about UVIR filter if you use on M8.

Personal sentiments apart... surely the current CV is better as a user lens :o

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M8.2 and 1972 Summicron 90mm, heavy version, no UV/IR cut filter

both are full frame. Lens wasn't a bargain but okay.

Portrait #1: 1/125 @ f/2 ISO 320, only LR in bw changed

Flowers #2: 1/90 @ f/4 ISO 160 LR contrasts

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The old Summilux 35 is risky to use wide open (depending on light conditions, one can find a strong flare) ... but if you love the 35 Summaron... :), well it's a sort of luxury version of it, same fantastic compactness with just a bit more of "gem" look (expecially the chrome) ; practical issues : no cheap if very good, 1st version is problematic about hood (OLLUX - difficult to find) and about UVIR filter if you use on M8.

Personal sentiments apart... surely the current CV is better as a user lens :o

 

The Summaron 35 is definitely better than the CV Skopar 35, especially wide open, it is an astounding flare-fighter, considering its age and the fact that you do not need the hood. Below a fast comparison:

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My Contax RF to Leica M adapter made by Amedeo Muscelli in Venezuela, has finally arrived after getting lost between UK and France, when my wife forwarded it. It was worth the wait, What a beautiful bit of machining and the focus appears to be spot on with my Opton Sonnar 50/1.5, at all distances from infinity to one meter. The only thing that takes some getting used to is that the focus ring turns the other way from Leica lenses. The focus is quite viscous but no worse than the 50 ASPH Summilux I had and at least the Sonnar does not have a razor sharp edge focus tab. I will take some photos tomorrow with the M9 and Sonnnar and post if there is anything decent.

 

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Here are a couple more shots taken with a collapsible Summicron 50mm f/2 manufactured in 1954.

 

- at f/2

- at f/8

 

These two shots were edited in Lightroom but give a pretty good idea of my own results with this lens.

 

To compare, the shots in the following set were taken with a later model Summicron 50mm f/2 manufactured in the 1970s: http://www.flickr.com/photos/wintershrooms/sets/72157624124067056/. These were also edited in Lightroom.

 

For now I prefer the collapsible Summicron of 1954 to the Summicron of the 1970s, but I'll do more shooting with both before I come to a definitive conclusion that works for me.

 

Love the shots in this thread. I've been learning a lot.

 

Cheers,

S.

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Here is one taken this evening with the 50mm Opton Sonnar on a A-M Adapter and M9. Not for the squeamish. I was going out to do my usual Sunday evening job which is to check the chlorine and pH in my pool, when something caught my eye just as I was going out the patio door. On a south facing wall, gathering in the retained heat, was a viper. It would be about 60cm long, which is about as large as our vipers (asps) get. A bite from it might not kill an adult but would certainly make you very ill. I keep a venom aspiration kit in the house. French chemists will not longer sell the anti-venom to members of the general public, as it has to be kept in a certain way, if it is not to be more lethal than the snake bite.

 

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Here is one taken this evening with the 50mm Opton Sonnar on a A-M Adapter and M9. Not for the squeamish. I was going out to do my usual Sunday evening job which is to check the chlorine and pH in my pool, when something caught my eye just as I was going out the patio door. On a south facing wall, gathering in the retained heat, was a viper. It would be about 60cm long, which is about as large as our vipers (asps) get. A bite from it might not kill an adult but would certainly make you very ill. I keep a venom aspiration kit in the house. French chemists will not longer sell the anti-venom to members of the general public, as it has to be kept in a certain way, if it is not to be more lethal than the snake bite.

 

Wilson

 

Nice shot, seems you kept your concentration :-) Also the viper consented you to portrait her. The only time I met one she run away all scared.

The shot apparently exhibits a characteristic of the Sonnar, i.e. pronounced field curvature. The picture is in focus in its central part, less outwards. But given the circumstances there wasn't much left to bother about it. Congrats!

 

Bruno

 

P.S. another reason for which they stopped selling the antidote is because one could be allergic to it without knowing. Adding Anaphylactic shock to the poison effects might be lethal.

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Bruno,

 

There is really nothing to be scared with from a viper. They are very timid and will never attack unless you stand on one by mistake. Round where I live, it is usually dogs that get bitten. The only problem is in autumn, when I have had them come into the house, I assume looking for warmth. At that time of year therefore, I always check when I get out of bed in the morning, in case there is one asleep on the floor of my bedroom on one of the carpets.

 

At our house in the UK, we used to have a cat which caught adders (the UK viper, a little bigger than the southern European ones, at about 70 - 90 cm long). These would be given to us as a present by the cat. Understandably, the adder was not very happy about this. We used to use 1 meter long toy robot arm that my son had, to pick the snake up by the head and take it outside again.

 

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