jsrockit Posted October 26, 2009 Share #1 Posted October 26, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) Anyone ever heard any rumors of Voigtlander making a digital rangefinder like the M8 or M9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Guest stnami Posted October 27, 2009 Share #2 Posted October 27, 2009 Anyone ever heard any rumors of toyota making a digital rangefinder like the M8 or M9? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share #3 Posted October 27, 2009 Anyone ever heard any rumors of toyota making a digital rangefinder like the M8 or M9? Hahaha...grrrr. Anyone ever heard that stnami likes to stick ...ah nevermind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ho_co Posted October 27, 2009 Share #4 Posted October 27, 2009 js, I think Imants' reply is equivalent to "yes." There are rumors that Zeiss will bring out a digital rangefinder, and that Nikon will. The possibility, I'm sure, is one reason that the Kodak sensor in the M9 is proprietary, even though Leica allowed Kodak to sell the M8 chip to anyone who wanted it. They're all savvy companies, and we'll see what we see. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stnami Posted October 27, 2009 Share #5 Posted October 27, 2009 and ....the endless list,canon, etc.......... jsrockit I wouldn't want to remove the stick seeing you use it as a plug:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted October 27, 2009 Author Share #6 Posted October 27, 2009 jsrockit I wouldn't want to remove the stick seeing you use it as a plug:D I hear ya... I like it where it is thank you. Ok, so there are rumors of all of these manufactuers making digital rangefinders? I've been away from photography for 10 years and just got back into it, so I wasn't sure. My most comfortable cameras were always rangefinders (M6, Contax G1, etc). Unfortunately, I don't want to shell out the cash for an M9 and I'm not big on the crop factor of the M8. A lower priced, fullframe alternative would be great... as I'm sure many would think. Leica's are no doubt the finest, but I can make do with another brand. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 27, 2009 Share #7 Posted October 27, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...There are rumors that Zeiss will bring out a digital rangefinder, and that Nikon will. The possibility, I'm sure, is one reason that the Kodak sensor in the M9 is proprietary... Why would they use a Kodak sensor, the last Sony sounds great no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UliWer Posted October 27, 2009 Share #8 Posted October 27, 2009 Why would they use a Kodak sensor, ... Don't you think that rumours in this forum are a sufficient reason? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 27, 2009 Share #9 Posted October 27, 2009 Frankly err. no (not the good response?) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
farnz Posted October 28, 2009 Share #10 Posted October 28, 2009 Anyone ever heard any rumors of Voigtlander making a digital rangefinder like the M8 or M9? Do you mean like the Epson RD-1? Pete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wilfredo Posted October 28, 2009 Share #11 Posted October 28, 2009 Zeiss would be a serious competitor if they came out with a FF digital rangefinder. Watch out Leica, they will be less expensive if that happens... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammam Posted October 28, 2009 Share #12 Posted October 28, 2009 If it happens (not entirely impossible) I think Panasonic will come up first with a digital RF. Look at the big strides they took lately (LX-3, G1, GH1...), and more importantly their latest, the GF1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted October 28, 2009 Do you mean like the Epson RD-1? Pete. Oh, I'm sorry... I meant an updated version worth using today. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #14 Posted October 28, 2009 If it happens (not entirely impossible) I think Panasonic will come up first with a digital RF. Look at the big strides they took lately (LX-3, G1, GH1...), and more importantly their latest, the GF1. The GF1 still seems like a panasonic point and shoot with the ability to change lenses. I'd like to see shutter speed dials on the body, aperatures on the lens, a built in true rangefinder / viewfinder, no scene modes, no video, no convoluted menus, no crop factor, etc... just something a bit more serious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted October 28, 2009 Share #15 Posted October 28, 2009 I'd like to see shutter speed dials on the body, aperatures on the lens, a built in true rangefinder / viewfinder, no scene modes, no video, no convoluted menus, no crop factor, etc... just something a bit more serious. Like the Epson RD-2 then? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted October 28, 2009 Like the Epson RD-2 then? I'd be ok with that. I just fathom putting down $7000 on an M9. If someone could come along and do a full frame D-Rangefinder for $3000 or less, I think it could work for me and a few other cheapskates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 28, 2009 Share #17 Posted October 28, 2009 Well, the issue with digital is that it requires a big infrastructure compared to film cameras, especially something like the C/V Bessas, that are basically 1980's technology. Very tough environment for a small company, as we see with Leica - which has partners out the wazoo (Kodak, Jenoptik, Panasonic) and still struggles. Another digital RF in the arena would just mean two companies losing money, instead of one barely making it. Even for the bigger manufacturers (read CNS) it would be a vanity play - something that doesn't lose too much money and is kinda cool and different. I could see Nikon putting out a Contax-G-like RF with SLR-style retrofocus lenses (no need for special sensor) and a limited lens line: 24 f/2.8, 35 f/2, 50 f/2, 85 f/2.8 (maybe f/2). Not M-mount. Myabe not even full-frame, since there would be no "legacy" lenses, in which case the lenses could be closer to M size for equivalent FoV (16, 24, 35, 60 at above apertures) Probably not until the economy sorts out a bit, though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stunsworth Posted October 28, 2009 Share #18 Posted October 28, 2009 Well, the issue with digital is that it requires a big infrastructure compared to film cameras, especially something like the C/V Bessas, that are basically 1980's technology. They did it for Epson though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsrockit Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share #19 Posted October 28, 2009 Even for the bigger manufacturers (read CNS) it would be a vanity play - something that doesn't lose too much money and is kinda cool and different. I could see Nikon putting out a Contax-G-like RF with SLR-style retrofocus lenses (no need for special sensor) and a limited lens line: 24 f/2.8, 35 f/2, 50 f/2, 85 f/2.8 (maybe f/2). Not M-mount. Myabe not even full-frame, since there would be no "legacy" lenses, in which case the lenses could be closer to M size for equivalent FoV (16, 24, 35, 60 at above apertures) Probably not until the economy sorts out a bit, though. I can see this as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
adan Posted October 29, 2009 Share #20 Posted October 29, 2009 Well, Epson WAS the infrastructure as far as the R-D1 was concerned. All Cosina did was build half a mechanical Bessa, which Epson then took delivery of, named, installed sensors in, profiled, firmwared, tested, finished, marketed, and supported. No Epson - no digital. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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