LUF Admin Posted September 1, 2015 Share #1  Posted September 1, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Leica just announced that the newly developed Leica M9 sensor stacks are ready to replace affected Leica M9/M9-P/M-E sensors. Leica M Monochrom sensors will follow shortly.  Update on the CCD sensors of the Leica M9 / M9-P / M Monochrom and M-E camera models  We are very pleased to inform you that we have successfully completed development on our new generation of CCD sensors and conducted subsequent quality assurance testing under practical conditions. As a result, Leica Camera AG can now begin replacing the sensors in the M9, M9-P and M-E models that were affected by corrosion with sensors from the new generation. Sensor replacement for M Monochrom models will also begin shortly. We will inform you of the precise date of this as soon as possible. On this note, we would like to remind our customers that we can only offer replacements for CCD sensors for cameras affected by this particular problem; prophylactic replacement is not possible. We thank you for your patience and for your loyalty to the Leica brand. Source  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249569-leica-m9-corrosion-sensor-replacement-starts-now/?do=findComment&comment=2880478'>More sharing options...
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pedaes Posted September 1, 2015 Share #2 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Good to know. Makes M9/MM Â attractive long-term cameras. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
M9reno Posted September 1, 2015 Share #3 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Wow, congratulations to M9 owners who kept their cameras, and hats off to Leica. Â I admit this I did not expect. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardkaraa Posted September 1, 2015 Share #4 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Fantastic! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
biswasg Posted September 1, 2015 Share #5  Posted September 1, 2015 I believe i have this problem. There is a small mark which has appeared on the upper left corner of the image sensor, which also reflects on the images. How can i get the sensor replaced through this offer of replacement? I could not find any information int he leica members area site of the official leica website. Thanks  Gautam Biswas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cidereye Posted September 1, 2015 Share #6 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Excellent news. My M9 sensor was replaced back in April though which is a shame really as it seems now we have the cure. Â Be interesting to know for how long Leica will replace sensors on affected cameras in the future and whether cameras that have had their sensor changed already with the old, affected sensor will be also covered too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 1, 2015 Share #7 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Advertisement (gone after registration) Just spoke to Leica NJ this morning about my M-E, which is due for sensor replacement end of September. Â They were notified about the new sensors, but told by Wetzlar "We will let you know when to expect inventory", meaning they don't have the new parts in stock yet. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
asiafish Posted September 1, 2015 Share #8 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Excellent news. My M9 sensor was replaced back in April though which is a shame really as it seems now we have the cure. Â Be interesting to know for how long Leica will replace sensors on affected cameras in the future and whether cameras that have had their sensor changed already with the old, affected sensor will be also covered too. If your replacement sensor corrodes they will replace it again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fiatlux Posted September 1, 2015 Share #9 Â Posted September 1, 2015 I don't think my M9 is impacted yet but it is reassuring to read that there is now a fix. Â Hopefully colour rendering won't be impacted, or would raw converters be able to identify modified cameras and apply the right profile? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim-St Posted September 1, 2015 Share #10  Posted September 1, 2015 I wonder if this means an end to the trade-up-to-M240 offers for owners of affected M9's?  Anyone know?  Jim Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sls Posted September 1, 2015 Share #11 Â Posted September 1, 2015 If your replacement sensor corrodes they will replace it again. http://uk.leica-camera.com/World-of-Leica/Leica-News/About-Leica-News/Global/2014/Important-Information-Concerning-the-CCD-Sensors Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted September 1, 2015 Share #12 Â Posted September 1, 2015 I don't think my M9 is impacted yet but it is reassuring to read that there is now a fix. Â Hopefully colour rendering won't be impacted, or would raw converters be able to identify modified cameras and apply the right profile? Don't worry, color rendition is almost the same. Leica asked me to test the new sensor and the test was positive. Look in the German Forum for details. I asked the admin for a translation, because my english is too bad. Â http://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/249568-leica-m9-korrosion-sensoraustausch-m9-m9-p-und-m-e-beginnt/?do=findComment&comment=2880512 Â Elmar www.ElmarStreyl.de Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joakim Posted September 1, 2015 Share #13 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Excellent Leica! Still have my M9 so this is great news (not that I am hoping for trouble ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeTexas Posted September 1, 2015 Share #14 Â Posted September 1, 2015 Leica has had my M9 since July 1. After all this waiting I hope it's at least getting the new sensor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnwolf Posted September 1, 2015 Share #15  Posted September 1, 2015 Can anyone tell me if this repair applies to non-original owners? I got my MM second-hand, and it shows no corrosion, but I'd like to know. Thank you.  John Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWC Doppel Posted September 1, 2015 Share #16  Posted September 1, 2015 I hope to live happily ever after with my M9-P and my Monochrom. Thank you Leica Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted September 1, 2015 Share #17  Posted September 1, 2015 Can anyone tell me if this repair applies to non-original owners? I got my MM second-hand, and it shows no corrosion, but I'd like to know. Thank you.  John Yes - it applies to all cameras and owners. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wlaidlaw Posted September 1, 2015 Share #18  Posted September 1, 2015 I am so glad I waited. I am far from convinced I really need my M9, with an M4 for film, M8 for infra red, C112 for pocket and an M240 for everything else plus loads of other film cameras in various formats. I could/would not have sold it with the current blotchy sensor and I am sure this excellent news from Leica will increase both the saleability and value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orient XI Posted September 2, 2015 Share #19 Â Posted September 2, 2015 What about cracked sensors? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LUF Admin Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share #20  Posted September 2, 2015 Here is my translation of Elmar's test of the new sensor stack:  Leica asked me in July to make a field test of the changed Leica M9 sensor - which I did. Prior to the sensor exchange I created color profiles of the old sensor using a SpyderCheckr color chart. Daylight (cloudy) Studio flash Fluorescent light Later I repeated this test with the new sensor. My conclusion in a nutshell: The new sensor behaves like the old sensor, especially regarding the color characteristic. According to Leica they did not change much so as not to change the sensor's color sensitivity. Before I told my observations to Leica I made about 400 photos and analyzed them - and didn't recognize any differences. I'll show these images later, right now I'm on vacation. ccording to Leica there have been no other changes or revisions to the firmware. I asked them for the errors in discrete mode. Leica tried earlier to reproduce this issue, without success. This error shows up very rare under unclear conditions. Thus no fix was possible.  Here are my observations which I told Leica in mid August:  I. First Impression The camera smells for a short time after unpacking New firmware 1.204 (instead of 1.202). According to Leica the old firmware can't be used. The internal image counter was preserved.  II. Colors The color profiles show only very small differences which are visually almost unperceivable. This is valid for daylight (though the lighting conditions were not exactly the same when creating the profiles) as well as for Tungsten or fluorescent light. I'll publish screenshots of the Lightroom presets later.  III. Lightroom Color Temperature 1. Lightroom reads the new sensor a little bit warmer by 200K (camera setting: fixed to cloudy daylight). Using AWB the results differ, studio flash distinctly colder, fluorescent light much warmer.  a. Camera set to cloudy - Old sensor 4800 K (-15) - New sensor 5000 K (+2)  b. Camera AWB - Old sensor fluorescent 4150 K (+1), studio flash 5050 K (-34) - New sensor fluorescent 5500 K (-11), studio flash 4400 K (+19)  2. White Balance with the identical grey field of a color chart results in different color temperatures - Old sensor fluorescent light 4350 K (+5), studio flash 5250 K (-31) - New sensor fluorescent light 4700 K (+18), studio flash 5850 K (-10)  IV. Sensitivity and Contrast Sensitivity and Contrast are identical to the old sensor. If you use same ISO, same aperture, time and lighting conditions Lightroom 6 shows almost identical values for white and black fields in the color chart.  V. AWB The AWB (Automatic White Balance) of the new sensor is sometimes a little bit too cool: 400-500 K would lead to a more pleasant image impression. As I use AWB very rarely I can't judge if this is a difference to the old sensor.  www.ElmarStreyl.de  Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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