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Three Leica products I wish I'd owned sooner...


johnastovall

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My newest pieces of gear:

 

R8

 

Motor

 

50 Summilux-R

 

 

The APO 180 3.4 Telyt is one of the main reasons I got into the R system and I have not been disappointed. It's an absolute masterpiece.

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Regarding the 180/3.4, I've had one for at least 20 years, actually maybe longer, having gotten it whenever it was first offered to the public. When I first got it, I thought it was fantastic. Then I moved to digital but not to the DMR, so the 180/3.4 sat in a drawer for 10 years. When I finally got an R9 and DMR I also got both the 180/2.8 APO (ROM) and the 180/2. Meanwhile, the 180/3.4 is still in the drawer because, for some reason, I had come to the conclusion—unsubstantiated by my own photos, mind you—that the 180/2.8 APO was superior to the 180/3.4 and the 180/2 simply blew the other two away for great bokeh. This is embarassing to admit that I formed these opinions without giving the 180/3.4 another chance on the R9/DMR. Should I have given it another chance? If so, what is it about the 180/3.4 that is superior to the 180/2.8 APO (forget the 180/2...it's a different horse for a different course, which I realize).?

 

Is it the relative light weight and smaller package that the 180/3.4 represents or is there another reason you are all so big on it?

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SL2 Mot- although started my SLR system with R4 in early '80s before I knew better

M6J- still wonderful and unsurpassed in usage and feel

80mm Summilux-R- after all these years, still magically expressive

35mm Summilux Titanium non-asph- far superior quality and feel to previous Canadian one bought new in 1981, always a pleasure to use, creates uniquely wonderful images.

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Regarding the 180/3.4, I've had one for at least 20 years, actually maybe longer, having gotten it whenever it was first offered to the public. When I first got it, I thought it was fantastic. Then I moved to digital but not to the DMR, so the 180/3.4 sat in a drawer for 10 years. When I finally got an R9 and DMR I also got both the 180/2.8 APO (ROM) and the 180/2. Meanwhile, the 180/3.4 is still in the drawer because, for some reason, I had come to the conclusion—unsubstantiated by my own photos, mind you—that the 180/2.8 APO was superior to the 180/3.4 and the 180/2 simply blew the other two away for great bokeh. This is embarassing to admit that I formed these opinions without giving the 180/3.4 another chance on the R9/DMR. Should I have given it another chance? If so, what is it about the 180/3.4 that is superior to the 180/2.8 APO (forget the 180/2...it's a different horse for a different course, which I realize).?

 

Is it the relative light weight and smaller package that the 180/3.4 represents or is there another reason you are all so big on it?

 

Surprisingly I have almost the exact same experience withe the Leica 180 s . I bought the 180 3.4 apo when it was released went through a few copies but still have the last version with the 60mm filter. I also have both the 2.8 and 2.0 apo s and use them on my DMR.

 

For pure optical performance the 180 3.4 is still competitive with the newer lenses. The big difference is the focus/handling. The 180 2.8 apo is by far the best handling longer lens I have seen. The focus mount was designed for two finger adjustments .....I can follow focus a surfer with this lens. It also mates with the 1.4apo extender to create a great 250/4 (thats a 350FOV on a DMR).

 

The 180 3.4 was designed for military use at distances . It performs its best at infinity. It also has a very long throw(read slow but precise) ....I always found it difficult to use for sports ( and used the older 180/2.8 pre apo version just for the ability to focus).

 

For travel the 180 3.4 is still a fine choice but I find the 180 2.8 apo as an almost perfect lens. The 180 2 is just to big and heavy for most of my work .

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