flx.bastin Posted July 16, 2009 Share #101 Posted July 16, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) yes, I would have bought one or two R10 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jamie Roberts Posted July 16, 2009 Share #102 Posted July 16, 2009 Yes, I would have bought one if it was not much more than $10K... I can't believe they couldn't build an R-compatible camera for that much with the S2 guts even. Sort of like a D3 compared with a D3x (S2). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dkCambridgeshire Posted July 16, 2009 Share #103 Posted July 16, 2009 I would probably buy a used R10 if it had been produced ... most of my Leica equipment was bought used ... I only bought new when I had a windfall ... eg my M8.2 is new and was a special indulgence. Cheers dunk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
berndr Posted July 17, 2009 Share #104 Posted July 17, 2009 When I compare this thread and the thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-s2-forum/66738-i-want-s2-anybody-else-gonna.html I see in this thread more pros in the reaction. I see much more postive votes in a shorter time. This means to me in the classical customer base a bigger marked can be found for a sucsessor of the R system then for the S system. So the choice for the new S system can only sucessful when more new customers can be attracted to the new system. I new that there are only Leica users in this forum, but you can see not so many will follow the way to the S system. When you take into account that there must be win more new customers then old R users are lost, I am very sceptical about the descision to prefer the S over the R system. Regards, Bernd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted July 17, 2009 Share #105 Posted July 17, 2009 When I compare this thread and the thread: http://www.l-camera-forum.com/leica-forum/leica-s2-forum/66738-i-want-s2-anybody-else-gonna.html I see in this thread more pros in the reaction. I see much more postive votes in a shorter time. This means to me in the classical customer base a bigger marked can be found for a sucsessor of the R system then for the S system. The results of this comparison have little to do with the market for photographic equipment in general, primarily because participants in this forum are mostly existing Leica users. The point of the S2 isn't to satisfy an existing market niche, it's to create a new one. Personally I'd rather have an R10 than an S2 but being a Leica-R user I'm biased. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share #106 Posted July 18, 2009 Up to 61 now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted July 18, 2009 Author Share #107 Posted July 18, 2009 Advertisement (gone after registration) When you take into account that there must be win more new customers then old R users are lost, I am very sceptical about the descision to prefer the S over the R system. Hi Bernd. I agree with you. I'm sure that a factor in Leica's prioritising in favour of the S system was that an R10 would have been all many would have needed/wanted, hence detracting from potential S body and lens sales. It will be an amazing system - and hard to resist. It might be a masterstroke. If the greatest economic downturn in 80 years doesn't turn it into a disaster. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gautier Posted July 18, 2009 Share #108 Posted July 18, 2009 Yes, I would have bought a R10 (for 6000 € max) to replace my R9/DMR. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 18, 2009 Share #109 Posted July 18, 2009 After > 25 years with (roughly) 85% RF Leicas, 10% MF, and a "symbolic" 5% (or probably less) with SLR (just to taste my collectible Contarex set), it would be a difficult choice... but surely, depending on which kind of system it could have been, I would have seriously taken it in consideration, even if this could have meant a massive sell-off of RF glass to finance the DSLR set... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveYork Posted July 18, 2009 Share #110 Posted July 18, 2009 The point of the S2 isn't to satisfy an existing market niche, it's to create a new one. This just seems so backward from a business and marketing perspective. Abandoning a loyal, albeit dwindling, customer base for a hopeful footprint in a new area? Seems odd. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted July 18, 2009 Share #111 Posted July 18, 2009 This just seems so backward from a business and marketing perspective. Abandoning a loyal, albeit dwindling, customer base for a hopeful footprint in a new area? Seems odd. The idea behind the S2 wasn't to abandon an existing market. It was to augment the customer base. Dropping the R line was not part if the original plan. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mhoersch Posted July 18, 2009 Share #112 Posted July 18, 2009 After > 25 years with (roughly) 85% RF Leicas, 10% MF, and a "symbolic" 5% (or probably less) with SLR (just to taste my collectible Contarex set), it would be a difficult choice... but surely, depending on which kind of system it could have been, I would have seriously taken it in consideration, even if this could have meant a massive sell-off of RF glass to finance the DSLR set... Can we count this as a "yes"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted July 18, 2009 Share #113 Posted July 18, 2009 After > 25 years with (roughly) 85% RF Leicas, 10% MF, and a "symbolic" 5% (or probably less) with SLR (just to taste my collectible Contarex set), it would be a difficult choice... but surely, depending on which kind of system it could have been, I would have seriously taken it in consideration... Could hardly have the inimitable shutter noise of the Contarex though... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ail Posted July 18, 2009 Share #114 Posted July 18, 2009 Yes, of course! I own 11 R lenses from 21mm to 560mm. Now I will have to sell them and go over to N or C. Lets make a count ... Would you have bought an R10, in the form of an R9 with a full frame sensor? For me - Yes. So that's 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mooky Posted July 19, 2009 Share #115 Posted July 19, 2009 Yes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted July 19, 2009 Share #116 Posted July 19, 2009 Yes, depending on price. But, I still think that a successful S2 will eventually lead to an R (or substitute R-type) solution...call it S1, as others suggest. If that's true, though, might be too late and a lot of damage will have been done for Leica faithful in the meantime. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnguyen Posted July 19, 2009 Share #117 Posted July 19, 2009 I stopped wishing for one. Use my Canon 5D for my R lenses. Since Leica came out to say that there will be a mean for Leica R users to be able to use their lenses. I hope they will make that happen in an upcoming M9. See my thread above... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bono0272 Posted July 19, 2009 Share #118 Posted July 19, 2009 Yes definitely I will buy one if there is a R10. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luigi bertolotti Posted July 19, 2009 Share #119 Posted July 19, 2009 Can we count this as a "yes"? Just as a "maybe"... ... emotionally speaking, I'm so tied with RF photo (and Leica M handling & feel) that it would have been something REALLY special... given my attitudes (and my not-frequent-shooter type) is difficult I decide to use two different systems... buiyng the theoretical "R10" would mean, to me, abandon the RF usage and keeping some old Leica RF gear just for sentiment... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted July 19, 2009 Share #120 Posted July 19, 2009 I was already to buy into the R10 subject to the usual price/spec issues. I invested heavily into the R9/DMR and 6 R lenses and I was ready to do it again this time with the AF R10 system (getting older!). Now I am very happily wedded to another full frame DSLR system with great lenses....and not C or N either! It is a shame for Leica and their very loyal R system user base to see the end of the R system. But cheer up there are very, very excellent alternative DSLR systems to try out, you might be very surprised too at the image quality. One good thing, the insurance premiums are much lower!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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