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I use my Canon 20D in a medical practice with a 60 mm macro. The camera is used by multi staff members, not that I don't trust them, but I would rather they did not use my M8. I had been thinking of the 5D MarkII for the FF, however, I would need a new macro lens. My M 8 is with me most days, but it is not too practical in a work setting. I have enjoyed reading the replies to this question, it seems that Nikon maybe the favorite brand after the Leica. Thanks

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If I could afford it an M8.2 but I can't so it is a Panasonic LX3. Excellent optics, wide angle, compact size, raw mode and some really cool scene modes such as pinhole and film grain. If Leica ever produces the oft rumored M mount digital based on a smaller body like the CL for under $3K I'll get one.

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My other camera is a 5d mk II. Quite impressive, but I still generally prefer the Leica. I am not a professional but have been a serious amateur for 50 years. For certain things you need different tools. (i) For me, with bad eyes, taking photos of small garandchildren who move at lightning speed is not feasible without autofocus; (ii) for situations calling for flash I find Canon's system works extremely well; (iii) for situations calling for long lenses (like a trip to the zoo with the aforementioned grandchildren) the SLR is a better tool. On the other hand, I almost never travel with the Canon because its just too big and heavy to schlep. Now I also have other "other cameras", as I bet most people on this forum do. They include a Canon G10, a DLux 3, a Nikon F3, Nikon 8008 and a Bessa something or other w/o viewfinder or rangefinder that I used to use for the 15mm CV.

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I have a small, weird collection of cameras based more on random events in my life than any plan (Pentacon 6, Hasselblad 500C, Hasselblad 2000FC/M, Contax 645 AF, M6, M8), and while the M8 is clearly my primary camera, the second one would be harder to choose. I guess I use the Contax 645 AF second-most, although it lives in a totally different space in my head than the M8. I use it almost exclusively with the 35/3.5 and 120/4 Macro, and this summer I bought a Sinar e54LV for it, which suits it well, but I think I might still prefer using it with film, which is a different mental process.

 

I think the choice of a second camera really depends on what you want to do. If you just want to shoot some film, pick up an M6, or a Nikon FM2n. If you want a different experience, try a medium format SLR. Hasselblad and Contax cameras are still somewhat expensive, so if you want to experiment more cheaply, try a Bronica or perhaps a Mamiya 6 or 7, or an RZ or Pentax 67 if you want to carry a big camera around :) Alternatively, a panoramic camera might also be interesting, or for the really dedicated, a 4x5. A panoramic camera appeals to me, possibly a 617, for the different visualization experience, but I am thinking vaguely about the 4x5 too, mainly for the meditation.

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Panasonic G1

 

Why - well the main limitiations of the M8 are macro and long telephoto. Size, weight and value are also considerations.

 

The G1 has an articulating screen and perhaps the best manual focus system available, it's really excellent for macro work and can accept a huge range of lenses via adapters. I use an Olympus OM 50mm f3.5 macro and a reversed OM 50mm standard lens with a variety of extension tubes and bellows.

 

Long tele - not so good, the Panasonic 45-200mm gives a 400mm equivalent focal length (x2 crop factor) but is mediocre. Some Olympus ZD lenses will autofocus but most lenses will be manual focus. Again the articualting screen and excellent manual focus help greatly. It is also a good camera for digiscoping for the same reason.

 

It is light, reasonably robust and at about £450 with kit lens can be used where I hestiate to take Leica gear as damage or loss won't break the bank or cause insurance arguments.

 

Finally - it can use my M lenses, albeit with a x2 crop factor. Only micro four thirds can do this.

 

So it's M8 when I can, G1 when I must.

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I have two "other" cameras. One is a 50D with a bunch of "L" lenses. I plan on keeping it and maybe "upgrading" a few years down the road.

 

My second "other" camera is a Panasonic GF-1. I'm really enjoying it because it is so easy to carry around and produces nice photos.

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M7 with a motor winder and 0.85 finder makes a terrific combo with the M8. I use a 75 lux especially on this M7 and having the winder makes shooting the 2 bodies very similar. For really low light work the D3 is my other body usually with a Zeiss 50/2 or 28/1.4 nikkor, and a 70-200/2.8 zoom for reach.

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I have a small, weird collection of cameras based more on random events in my life than any plan (Pentacon 6, Hasselblad 500C, Hasselblad 2000FC/M, Contax 645 AF, M6, M8), and while the M8 is clearly my primary camera, the second one would be harder to choose. I guess I use the Contax 645 AF second-most, although it lives in a totally different space in my head than the M8. I use it almost exclusively with the 35/3.5 and 120/4 Macro, and this summer I bought a Sinar e54LV for it, which suits it well, but I think I might still prefer using it with film, which is a different mental process.

 

I think the choice of a second camera really depends on what you want to do. If you just want to shoot some film, pick up an M6, or a Nikon FM2n. If you want a different experience, try a medium format SLR. Hasselblad and Contax cameras are still somewhat expensive, so if you want to experiment more cheaply, try a Bronica or perhaps a Mamiya 6 or 7, or an RZ or Pentax 67 if you want to carry a big camera around :) Alternatively, a panoramic camera might also be interesting, or for the really dedicated, a 4x5. A panoramic camera appeals to me, possibly a 617, for the different visualization experience, but I am thinking vaguely about the 4x5 too, mainly for the meditation.

 

I see I'm on Carsten's wavelength at the moment. My #1 camera is an M8.2, soon to be joined by an M9, and separating out what lenses work best on each will be an immediate project. But I also enjoy working with film, scanned on a pretty good flatbed Epson V500, using an M2 and an Xpan-1. The Xpan requires a different way of thinking and organizing a picture, because it makes me want to tell a story, or create a stage setting which stretches across that very wide frame. I also just acquired a Hasselblad 500CM, a classic of its kind, for 1/7 the cost of the M9. "Cheap as chips," I guess. Anyway, I am looking forward to having negatives big enough to view with the naked eye (and scan).

 

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Yes, the X-Pan has also appealed to me greatly, but the price is still too high for a whim. I also suspect that it would work much better in Israel than around Berlin. There isn't much around here, other than cityscapes and flat green fields.

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Yes, the X-Pan has also appealed to me greatly, but the price is still too high for a whim. I also suspect that it would work much better in Israel than around Berlin. There isn't much around here, other than cityscapes and flat green fields.

 

Actually city streets seen at a slight remove (not in their faces) might use the wide frame well. And as for flat green fields, you should look at the pictures Art Sinsabaugh made in downstate Illinois years ago. At their most extreme they were 2 x 20's, concentrating on the variations in the detail and texture at the horizon line. Isn't it curious that Hasselblad 50x's are available in such a flood that they cost less than the orphaned Xpan on the used market?

 

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My 2nd camera is Nikon D700 which I mostly use with Zeiss 50/1.4, Nikkor 24/3.8 perspective control and 14-24/2.8. If I'm out with just the 8.2 in bag I will often have the d-lux 4 in the bag as well.

Going to Berlin tomorrow and will take leica set up plus D700 with 50/1.4 and 24/3.8 PC (will be useful for all the architecture)

 

 

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