billh Posted October 30, 2006 Share #1 Posted October 30, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) 24ASPH and 28 f2.0 ASPH, Does anyone have both lenses? I am wondering how they compare as far as sharpness, contrast and the out of focus areas. It may be there is no practical difference except the field of view and extra stop. I’m leaning toward the 28 Summicron (for the M8), because I primarily use the Leicas to photograph people. I have the 21ASPH and the 35 f1.4 ASPH (which I have hardly used since the 50 f1.4 ASPH arrived). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Hi billh, Take a look here 24ASPH or 28 f2.0 ASPH. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
pascal_meheut Posted October 30, 2006 Share #2 Posted October 30, 2006 Yes, I have both. I bought the 24mm for the M8 so I hardly used it on film but did on film with it. First impression is no difference with the 28mm: they are both excellent. I'll compare them on the M8 and let you know if you want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share #3 Posted October 30, 2006 I'll compare them on the M8 and let you know if you want. That is exactly what I want! Thanks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 30, 2006 Share #4 Posted October 30, 2006 ...I am wondering how they compare as far as sharpness, contrast and the out of focus areas... Difficult to get optical blur with a 24mm lens, Bill, even at f/2.8. If you want to do portrait and isolate subjects from OoF areas there is no alternative IMHO: you need 28mm and at least f/2. FWIW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share #5 Posted October 31, 2006 Hi LCT, Isolating a subject with a wide lens was not on my mind when I made the post, but it is a good thought. Mostly I use the longer lenses for this. I am curious about the look (smoothness) of the Oof areas between the 24 and 28 Summicron. I have not shot any fun pics for some time, but today I was motivated, and dusted off the RD-1, 21 f2.8ASPH, 50 ASPH and the APO75 - I was curious to see the perspective (another reason to choose the 28 over the 24 when people are your usual subjects), and the oof areas. It has been some time since I was excited about a camera to use simply for the fun of taking pictures, rather than as a vehicle to make the image for some purpose. I can’t think of anyone better than you to asked about the look a lens gives! Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tom0511 Posted October 31, 2006 Share #6 Posted October 31, 2006 can tell you in a couple of days when I receive my 24. have the 21asph and 28/2.0asph, but I wanted the widest which still works without external viewfinder on the M8. Plus I think 24 on the rd1 is more interesting than 28. On the rd1 my 28/2.0 does a nice job, but not as superdetailed/sharp as my 21 and my 35/1.4asph when shot wide open. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 31, 2006 Share #7 Posted October 31, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) ...I am curious about the look (smoothness) of the Oof areas between the 24 and 28 Summicron... Hi Bill, Pascal will give you better answers than mine as i don't own the 24/2.8 personally. All i can say is if you like the 50/1.4asph OoF then the 28/2's is not much different in that it is not smooth like pre-asph lenses of course but not really harsh either. Both are my favourite when i need a fast combo on the R-D1. Now Pascal's advice will be more usefull with his new M8 (congrats Pascal!) and it is mainly a matter of tastes as you know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rona!d Posted October 31, 2006 Share #8 Posted October 31, 2006 About optical blur with the 24asph. (stopped down to 2.8 or 4.0, i think 2.8, camera:MP) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/8176-24asph-or-28-f20-asph/?do=findComment&comment=81077'>More sharing options...
billh Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share #9 Posted October 31, 2006 On the rd1 my 28/2.0 does a nice job, but not as superdetailed/sharp as my 21 and my 35/1.4asph when shot wide open. Tom, Your 28 f2.0 is not as sharp as your 21 f2.8ASPH? I wouldn’t have expected that to be the case. I have this 21 and in fact used it yesterday - I’ll try to take a look at the photos this morning. The 21 has such extreme perspective for use as a “normal” lens. I have the 35 f1.4ASPH, which becomes about a 46mm lens - maybe it will work OK. I think my 50, at the equivalent of 65mm is a bit too long, but perhaps I should wait and try it before deciding whether to get a 24 or 28mm lens. Bill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share #10 Posted October 31, 2006 Hi Bill, Pascal will give you better answers than mine as i don't own the 24/2.8 personally.All i can say is if you like the 50/1.4asph OoF then the 28/2's is not much different in that it is not smooth like pre-asph lenses of course but not really harsh either. Both are my favourite when i need a fast combo on the R-D1. Now Pascal's advice will be more usefull with his new M8 (congrats Pascal!) and it is mainly a matter of tastes as you know. Thanks LCT, that is useful information. I don’t dislike the 50 ASPH oof areas, but it is, as you say, not so creamy smooth as (for example), my Noctilux or 180 Summicron, so I don’t choose the 50 ASPH with that look in mind. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted October 31, 2006 Author Share #11 Posted October 31, 2006 About optical blur with the 24asph. (stopped down to 2.8 or 4.0, i think 2.8, camera:MP) Ron, thank you. That photo is a perfect illustration. Now I know exactly what to expect from this parameter of the 24mm lens. Is the oof look of the 28 Summicron the same? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted October 31, 2006 Share #12 Posted October 31, 2006 ...Is the oof look of the 28 Summicron the same? Difficult to compare digital with analogue there are so many variables like film, development and scanners that the smooth bokeh of the pic above could possibly be harsher with M8 or R-D1 bodies, i don't know. Anyway you might wish to take a look on my new thread about 28/2 and new 28/2.8 M lenses here: http://www.leica-camera-user.com/81507-post1.html FWIW Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
billh Posted November 1, 2006 Author Share #13 Posted November 1, 2006 Thank you LCT. They have a very similar look to me. The out of focus areas from the newer 28mm f2.8ASPH appear to be more saturated and have more contrast than the same areas in the 28 Summicron images. Do you see this generally? I couldn’t remember what the out of focus area looked like, so I put the 21ASPH, 50ASPH and APO75 on the RD-1 and took a few snaps. Those, plus the Noctilux are the lenses I am most curious about seeing on the M8 APO75@f2.0 http://homepage.mac.com/billh96007/.Pictures/RD-1/Kona,75APO@2.0,0340.jpg 21ASPH@f4.0 http://homepage.mac.com/billh96007/.Pictures/RD-1/Shadowfax,50ASPH@4.0,0291.jpg http://homepage.mac.com/billh96007/50ASPH/PhotoAlbum191.html Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/8176-24asph-or-28-f20-asph/?do=findComment&comment=81569'>More sharing options...
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