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Why looks M8 pics less digital than competitors?


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Place a 2.5kg weight of a camera on your shoulder and after 1 hr. it will look like weighting 5kgs. 2 hrs. later your shoulder will "scream" to throw that thing ASAP, and after that you go looking for your orthopedist.

 

I said it once before and I'll say it again: "How did you kids get so puny?" I'm 78 years old and I carry a D2X or a D3 over my shoulder for hours climbing mountain paths below Pikes Peak. Diogenis, before you come to a conclusion like this you should try it first.

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So right, Richard. I may be one-and-a half decade younger, but I can still adress most of them as "kids". DMR+long lens equals 3.5 kg's, M8 on the other shoulder, 4-hours hikes in 110 degrees....

 

The whole thread, btw, makes not too much sense to me; Surely the M8 is a camera that is not bought for the image quality of the sensor. Sure, it should be so good that it satisfies expectations, but the main reason for buying into the system is the rangefinder experience - and, let's be fair, a bit of brand mystique. All the rest is secondary.

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I said it once before and I'll say it again: "How did you kids get so puny?" I'm 78 years old and I carry a D2X or a D3 over my shoulder for hours climbing mountain paths below Pikes Peak. Diogenis, before you come to a conclusion like this you should try it first.

 

But I have!!!

Which is why I resort to belt cases. Well If I was to be forced to do it I guess I would do it, but not without complaints. But there is an option: the m8..

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But I have!!!

Which is why I resort to belt cases. Well If I was to be forced to do it I guess I would do it, but not without complaints. But there is an option: the m8..

 

I have to agree that weight is not really an issue IMO. Hike up a mountain with a praglider backpack of 15kg and you know what is possible. For me it would be more the question how obstrusive/unobstrusive does the camera look for other people? How much attention does a camera get. However I am not even sure if this is more a problem in the head of the photographer himself.

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I said it once before and I'll say it again: "How did you kids get so puny?" I'm 78 years old and I carry a D2X or a D3 over my shoulder for hours climbing mountain paths below Pikes Peak. Diogenis, before you come to a conclusion like this you should try it first.

 

The fact that you can carry this load doesn't mean it's the smartest or most efficient use of your energy. Perhaps you also carry a pack full of canned beef stew because it tastes better than the freeze dried stuff?

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The M8 definitely looked less digital than when I had Canon 5D's, but not so much with Nikon's D3 and D700.

 

I shoot a tight set of in camera settings in the Nikons, then I simply batch export them in NX, not really adjusting anything. When I use a lens like the CZ 35/2 on the D700 and the 28/2 on the M8, there is not much of a difference in overall look at all.

 

With the Nikons and NX, I have hardly any post production work at all, they go right to press. The files from the M8 only need a little more work to look that good.

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The fact that you can carry this load doesn't mean it's the smartest or most efficient use of your energy. Perhaps you also carry a pack full of canned beef stew because it tastes better than the freeze dried stuff?

 

It's the "smartest and most efficient use" of my energy if I want photographs. I've never tried shooting pictures with canned beef stew, or even "freeze-dried stuff," but if that's your choice, have at it.

 

When you go into the mountains with your M8, Brent, what single lens do you have on the camera? Since you're concerned about weight I assume you leave the gadget bag and lenses behind. I don't know of a single prime lens that'll do what I want to do around the abandoned gold mines below Pikes Peak. In the sixties I used to go up there with an M4 and a bag of lenses. Now I go up there with a D3 and a single zoom. Not much difference in weight, but a lot more difference in convenience. Don't get me wrong. I'm not knocking the M8. I use my R-D1 all the time and I'll have a digital Leica rangefinder as soon as I'm convinced it's reliable enough, but to me it's still a street camera -- not an abandoned gold mine camera. Jaap does some exceptionally fine work in the boonies with his M8, but I'll bet he's carrying at least as much weight as I am with my D3.

 

I probably should add that I also carry a carbon fiber tripod in my left hand when the camera's over my right shoulder.

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It's the "smartest and most efficient use" of my energy if I want photographs. I've never tried shooting pictures with canned beef stew, or even "freeze-dried stuff," but if that's your choice, have at it.

 

No, dummy, you don't shoot with it, you eat it. Perhaps you don't carry any food into the mountains and prefer to live off roots and berries, maybe munching an occasional wriggling hand-caught brookie?

 

I probably should add that I also carry a carbon fiber tripod in my left hand when the camera's over my right shoulder.

 

Carbon fiber? Kind of wimpy, isn't it? Thought for sure a big strong guy like you would carry a 12 pound steel Gitzo/ballhead combo to give that D3 some stability.

 

Happy climbing/gold mine shooting. ;)

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No, dummy, you don't shoot with it, you eat it. Perhaps you don't carry any food into the mountains and prefer to live off roots and berries, maybe munching an occasional wriggling hand-caught brookie?

 

Carbon fiber? Kind of wimpy, isn't it? Thought for sure a big strong guy like you would carry a 12 pound steel Gitzo/ballhead combo to give that D3 some stability.

 

Happy climbing/gold mine shooting. ;)

 

Brent, you didn't answer my question: When you go into the mountains with your M8, Brent, what single lens do you have on the camera?

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No, dummy, you don't shoot with it, you eat it. Perhaps you don't carry any food into the mountains and prefer to live off roots and berries, maybe munching an occasional wriggling hand-caught brookie?

 

Carbon fiber? Kind of wimpy, isn't it? Thought for sure a big strong guy like you would carry a 12 pound steel Gitzo/ballhead combo to give that D3 some stability.

 

Happy climbing/gold mine shooting. ;)

 

Brent, you didn't answer my question: When you go into the mountains with your M8, what single lens do you have on the camera?

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I think it may be because the M8 has no AA filter, which make the images look less plastic comparing to some other dSLRs have strong AA filter.

 

That's an important factor in what, I believe, many people are perceiving when they make this observation. One can see the difference even in thumbnails. The M8 does very little AA filtering.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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Oh, My God! And I realize as well, how bad is my monitor and how important is to have a professinal one to edit properly the files. So... next think to buy, and my pocket will remain empty.;) It was really nice to admire the m8 files through a good monitor.

 

Cheers!

 

Consider an NEC 2490 with a hood.

 

Cheers,

 

Sean

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