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J Mitchum

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Rob you are sadly mistaken if it is to be used for taking photos with. It is a goddam 18th letter of the Greek alphabet and is now a golfing term and meaning the last place before drinks

Drink more P____

 

W is for wiskey and the T is for well I'll be buggered, dunno

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I really don't understand the excitement here. This is NOT a digital CM/Minilux substitute by any stretch of the fevered imagination. f4??? 28mm??? Come on!

 

Does anyone remember the early episodes of Red Dwarf? The ones where Cat kept going on about "shiny things" and how much he wanted them? Just because it's new and shiny doesn't mean it's desirable, although to some people that does seem to be the primary criterion for acquisition...

 

For those, like me, who do want a real digital CM, instead of wasting your money on this, spend it on a stamp and send a considered letter to Solms politely setting out what you would like to see and why.

 

Regards,

 

Bill

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Bill,

 

While I agree that this is NOT a digital CM, I don't think it's likely we'll ever see one any time soon. Although Leica has finally delivered (or is about to) on the digital M, they seem quite content to simply rebadge anything other than the M8 and DMR. At this point, and for the foreseeable future, they are going to be consumed with making back their investment on the M, hence the latest crop of Panaleicas.

 

THAT is why we poor souls latch onto cameras like the Ricoh and the Sigma (or even the D-LUX 2/3) as a next-best-thing to the elusive digital CM.

 

Cheers,

 

Simon

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Why do they all look the same. Probably use all the same bits anyway. None of them are substatntially different enough to be any better than the other in practical use. Its all just pick a brand use it for a bit get rid of it next year.

 

The difference here is the Sigma DP1 is the first compact to use an APS sized sensor. This is significant as the reason why all pocketable digitals to date have had terrible image quality is due to the use of tiny sensors. It shows it is possible and hopefully will force other manufacturers (are you listening Leica?) to follow suit.

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Hi

 

this may not be a digital CM, but i agree with an earlier reply that says there might not be a digital CM that is truly from Leica itself (like the digital M) for a long time to come......

 

And yes this little Sigma has a full APS-C size sensor (or close to it - the crop factor is 1.7x) in it, a foveon sensor no less. In theory at least, the image quality is likely to be far better with less high ISO noise.

 

In theory. (sd10 comes to mind, but let's hope Sigma learnt some lessons from that!)

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Wim,

 

The LCD on the Ricoh GR D is 2.5" and that camera's about as compact as you'd want.

 

And Earlygallery, the fact that the lens is a 28mm equiv. doesn't bother me all that much, The Ricoh GR D had that and using it was like having an M with a 28mm lens. Perfect for street stuff. And if you can attach a third party 28mm finder like Voigtlander's then you could have a really neat picture taker.

 

My biggest disappointment is that the lens speed of this lens is f4. Ricoh got away with it because their sensor is so small. So I guess going with an f4 was an executive decision that was made as result of putting an APS sized sensor inside a compact body. It probably would have been too difficult and costly to make the lens any faster. Even if it would have been one honey of a compact.

 

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What's the point of getting 14Mpix to get blurred images for lack of viewfinder?

Makes me think of my daughter. She went to Argentina on vacation and i lent her a decent digicam of mine, with a decent VF i mean (Sony DSC-V1).

Back home, a lot of her photos were motion blurred.

When i asked why she answered she did not use the VF because 'nobody did like this'.

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