Daniel kk Posted September 11, 2006 Share #1 Posted September 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) A new Tri-Elmar lens in 16-21-28mm f4 for Digital M8 will be announced in Photokina 2006. Good news to Leica digital & film users! kk:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted September 11, 2006 Posted September 11, 2006 Hi Daniel kk, Take a look here New Tri-Elmar Lens 16-21-28 for Digital M8. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
albertwang Posted September 11, 2006 Share #2 Posted September 11, 2006 I want to see a picture of this! Of course, on the regular M6 it becomes an awesome wide angler... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masjah Posted September 11, 2006 Share #3 Posted September 11, 2006 I want to see a picture of this! Of course, on the regular M6 it becomes an awesome wide angler... ...... always assuming, of course, that it has the full size image circle for a 35mm frame. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 11, 2006 Share #4 Posted September 11, 2006 It should be for a full image circle. I doubt that Leica would build a separate APS chip-sized specific lens. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ptomsu Posted September 11, 2006 Share #5 Posted September 11, 2006 It should be for a full image circle. I doubt that Leica would build a separate APS chip-sized specific lens. This implies that you believe that there will be a FF M model in the future !? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 11, 2006 Share #6 Posted September 11, 2006 Of course, what reason would Leica not be working on a fullframe M model? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
philipotto Posted September 11, 2006 Share #7 Posted September 11, 2006 Advertisement (gone after registration) Every M to date is FF. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandokan Posted September 11, 2006 Share #8 Posted September 11, 2006 was not every R full frame till DMR? I was told by someone, that making a full frame sensor requires a change of lens design, because of the difference in acceptance angle of sensors to film (this I could understand and believe, but ... Is it correct?) I was told that this is the reason why Canon and Nikon lenses are so large in diameter - was I being told porkies? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 11, 2006 Share #9 Posted September 11, 2006 I'm afraid that mostly porkies... they said that a digital M was impossible... well guess that comes up on Friday! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted September 11, 2006 Share #10 Posted September 11, 2006 I want to see a picture of this... Source RFF: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/5003-new-tri-elmar-lens-16-21-28-for-digital-m8/?do=findComment&comment=47771'>More sharing options...
ho_co Posted September 12, 2006 Share #11 Posted September 12, 2006 ... always assuming, of course, that it has the full size image circle for a 35mm frame. I think Leica has officially said that future lenses will be fully compatible with prior camera models; I believe their spokesman told that to the LHSA when first announcing the 1.33 crop factor of the M8. Personal opinion: Everyone thinks we need a full-frame sensor, but I'm not sure why: Just brain-convenience and habit, I would say. Sean Reid remarked elsewhere on this forum that both the DMR and the full-frame Canons already deliver the quality of medium-format film. [but note, every time I quote what I thought Sean said, he responds nicely with a clarification.] My feeling: Quit worrying about a bigger sensor till we see what quality we get from this one. I have no doubt this box will do at least as well as the DMR, in which case we need to learn to say: "Yes, you have to make do with a full-frame sensor, because you don't have a Leica!" Try it. Amazing how trippingly it falls from the tongue: "Yes, you have to make do with a full-frame sensor, because you don't have a Leica!" --HC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gogopix Posted September 12, 2006 Share #12 Posted September 12, 2006 Of course, what reason would Leica not be working on a fullframe M model? Part is laws of physics (high angles), but why we worry FF? The M8 WILL be full frame, but the frame will just be smaller... :-) I always wonder about this FF issue; is it cost or performance? Many say "Rarely use 15mm..." some say "Rarely use 19mm" So a 16mm with 19-21 mm equivalent sounds just fine except for super wide shots, then you can use pano, no... Maybe whole FF discussion is a red herring Victor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted September 13, 2006 Share #13 Posted September 13, 2006 16-21-28? I'd be surprised if the new Tri-Elmar treads on the toes of the existing one. I'd always thought it was 16-18-21... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 13, 2006 Share #14 Posted September 13, 2006 Yes, this is a mistake of the poster. The tri-elmar is a 16-18-21 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sean_reid Posted September 13, 2006 Share #15 Posted September 13, 2006 Sean Reid remarked elsewhere on this forum that both the DMR and the full-frame Canons already deliver the quality of medium-format film. [but note, every time I quote what I thought Sean said, he responds nicely with a clarification.] --HC Hi Howard, No clarification this time, that's exactly what I've said. Cheers, Sean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 13, 2006 Share #16 Posted September 13, 2006 Sean Reid remarked elsewhere on this forum that both the DMR and the full-frame Canons already deliver the quality of medium-format film. -Only if you don't use the Cannon wide anglers which is zapped by coma, aberrations, and other loose ends. -Damnit, okay if that really is, why do I still have a Hassy in my collection? I should have gone large format now!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fotografr Posted September 13, 2006 Share #17 Posted September 13, 2006 Good news to Leica digital & film users! kk:D Good news? Wait until you see the price. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
albertwang Posted September 13, 2006 Share #18 Posted September 13, 2006 Does anyone have the optical cutaway design for this particular lens? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
grober Posted September 13, 2006 Share #19 Posted September 13, 2006 F4 is too slow people! (I realize that anything faster would be unbuildable and most certainly cost-prohibitive.) Our only solution is also the classic Leica solution: buy and use two M8 bodies, each mounted with a different optic. I wonder what the M8 body weighs? 'Course I won't need the added weight for any Motor drive. So many questions... -g Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pascal_meheut Posted September 13, 2006 Share #20 Posted September 13, 2006 F4 is too slow people! I know that the concept is quite strange and maybe very difficult to understand but other people may have different needs you know and I'm not sure you can expect such definitive sentences to be religious level truth because they are ok for you. Unless of course of you live in the Bible Belt and think that George W. is the greatest President of all times and smart too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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