hamey Posted March 16, 2008 Share #101 Posted March 16, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Very good LCT. I have also heard about the new mount. Note, Kaufmann referred to a SLR, not an "R" To be frank, I don't know why so many of you are so worried about the R10. Our present R lenses work very well on Canon DSLR bodies. In my view you are better off in using the R lenses with a Canon then that other PanaLeica Monstrosity called the D3. On both systems you need an adapter = Ok so you need to step down metering, so what. You can use Canon lenses for certain types of applications full auto and AF, and Leica R for others. The beauty with Canon, you have their big lens inventry, plus other independent lens manufactories that make lenses for the EOS system. The PansLeica system future is ?????????????????????????????????????. Remember, we Leica R users are very lucky indeed, but we cannot see the tree because of the forrest. For my Digital needs, I have purchessed a Canon G9, and I simply love it, it fits in my shirt pocket nicely and doesn't get in the way whenever I am using my beloved Leica R. Simply a wonderful combination. Cheers. P.S. Dear Leica. Is there any chance if you can make us a very nice Leica R to EOS adapter Please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted March 16, 2008 Posted March 16, 2008 Hi hamey, Take a look here Interview with Andreas Kaufmann on Handelsblatt.com. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
lct Posted March 16, 2008 Share #102 Posted March 16, 2008 Thanks no thanks my friend. I don't want a PanaLeica thing but i don't want a Canon either. I own some not so bad Nikon glass already so if Leica don't launch an R10 to my likings next year, i'll sell my R glass and go for a Nikon and a couple Zeiss lenses for the latter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted March 17, 2008 Share #103 Posted March 17, 2008 to me "no comment means"..... well no comment. why would you interpert "no comment" to mean so much more ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 17, 2008 Share #104 Posted March 17, 2008 Thanks no thanks my friend. I don't want a PanaLeica thing but i don't want a Canon either. I own some not so bad Nikon glass already so if Leica don't launch an R10 to my likings next year, i'll sell my R glass and go for a Nikon and a couple Zeiss lenses for the latter. Canon is the way to go, LCT. They'll have two new (upscale) models this year ... besides the R lenses, you can also use your Nikon and/or Zeiss lenses as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 17, 2008 Share #105 Posted March 17, 2008 If this will make you feel better about having a Canon, especially when you see it's good enough for Anne Leibovitz and the Queen ... note, what's mounted on the 1Ds Mk II is a lowly 24-70 costing ONLY 1100 USD when brandnew - cheaper than the cheapest Leica. YouTube - Monarchy - Annie Leibovitz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wildlightphoto Posted March 17, 2008 Share #106 Posted March 17, 2008 Note, Kaufmann referred to a SLR, not an "R" I've noticed this too on several occasions. Perhaps the next camera after the R9 will be called SL10 (totally unfounded speculation). If this will make you feel better about having a Canon, especially when you see it's good enough for Anne Leibovitz and the Queen ... What matters to me is whether it's good enough for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 17, 2008 Share #107 Posted March 17, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Perhaps the next camera after the R9 will be called SL10 (totally unfounded speculation). Nah, it'll be called SL3 ... Doug. What matters to me is whether it's good enough for me. If the existing R lenses can only be used with the "R10" in a crippled manner, then it's better to stay with the DMR until it breaks down. If the "R10" won't take existing R lenses at all, then it's worse than anything else which will let you to do so. I'm expecting the DMR price on eBay soaring when news breaks ... but hey, if the "R10" can be had for less than $2k, I wouldn't mind them changing the mount every time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marknorton Posted March 17, 2008 Share #108 Posted March 17, 2008 If the new camera doesn't support R lenses to the fullest extent possible, I can see Leica even now raising their foot and taking aim. It would be a commercial disaster. Imagine if they had done that with the M8? I think R10 is an unfortunate name... "I see you bought a Leica Rio....", a new naming convention after vacation destinations. Coming next, the Leica Phuket... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 17, 2008 Share #109 Posted March 17, 2008 What i'm afraid of is the M8 spirit at Leica, i mean the behavior consisting to take thoughtless risks in the hope of winning whatever marketing competition against nikanopus brands. Instead of aiming at a more than full frame sensor putting everyone in trouble, suffice it to offer what most customers need i.e. a full frame Leica to fit their great Leica lenses thats all. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbirchenhall Posted March 17, 2008 Share #110 Posted March 17, 2008 Instead of aiming at a more than full frame sensor putting everyone in trouble, suffice it to offer what most customers need i.e. a full frame Leica to fit their great Leica lenses thats all. .... but at an acceptable price! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crbirchenhall Posted March 17, 2008 Share #111 Posted March 17, 2008 Thanks no thanks my friend. I don't want a PanaLeica thing but i don't want a Canon either. I own some not so bad Nikon glass already so if Leica don't launch an R10 to my likings next year, i'll sell my R glass and go for a Nikon and a couple Zeiss lenses for the latter. I am in a very similar position. The Nikon D3 beckons and sets my bench mark against which I will judge Leica announcements at Photokina. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick_dykstra Posted March 17, 2008 Share #112 Posted March 17, 2008 I know what AK's user id is but I'm not telling. Less than 10 posts. AK is the Stig. Let's hope he can drive the company as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted March 17, 2008 Share #113 Posted March 17, 2008 What i'm afraid of is the M8 spirit at Leica, i mean the behavior consisting to take thoughtless risks in the hope of winning whatever marketing competition against nikanopus brands. Instead of aiming at a more than full frame sensor putting everyone in trouble, suffice it to offer what most customers need i.e. a full frame Leica to fit their great Leica lenses thats all. "Most" is unsupported. Maybe "some'" would be more accurate? Who knows? Hopefully leica does. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsolomon Posted March 17, 2008 Share #114 Posted March 17, 2008 ............I'm expecting the DMR price on eBay soaring when news breaks ... but hey, if the "R10" can be had for less than $2k, I wouldn't mind them changing the mount every time. Why would the price of the DMR a 3 year old (plus), "semi" supported electronic accessory for a camera no longer produced go up in value when the new generation is announced ? if you look at DMR prices today they are holding well at about 60 pct or so of original cost.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted March 17, 2008 Share #115 Posted March 17, 2008 Perhaps Leica take the view that the 'M' is their traditional bedrock product, and that they tinker with that form factor at their peril. With the 'R' though they might consider they they can afford, maybe need, to be more adventurous, hence the hints of 'full frame or larger', a new mount and possibly autofocus. I concur with Mark though, in that ensuring future compatibility with existing 'R' lenses should be considered an essential part of that adventure. On the subject of a name for the new camera. Well 'R10' is assumed by many and Doug Herr has suggested resurrecting the 'SL' moniker, so perhaps Leica should consider calling it the 'Leica SLR' . Do you think it could catch on? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdai Posted March 17, 2008 Share #116 Posted March 17, 2008 On the subject of a name for the new camera. Well 'R10' is assumed by many and Doug Herr has suggested resurrecting the 'SL' moniker, so perhaps Leica should consider calling it the 'Leica SLR' . Do you think it could catch on? That's a good one, Steve ... well, the only good sign is, Dr. Kaufmann didn't add a "D" in front of "SLR" - if you know what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevelap Posted March 17, 2008 Share #117 Posted March 17, 2008 That's a good one, Steve ... well, the only good sign is, Dr. Kaufmann didn't add a "D" in front of "SLR" - if you know what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aXs Posted March 18, 2008 Share #118 Posted March 18, 2008 Olaf, now there is the follow-up to your Handelsblatt article on Leica/Andreas Kaufmann: same newspaper Handelsblatt/Duesseldorf - co-production - with DW-Germany TV for report "Made in Germany: Leica: Focussing on Profit" (broadcast 18.3.2008 in German/English) News release: ...highly accurate lens made it a highly prized camera for professionals and ambitious hobby photographers...but when digital cameras began their world-wide conquest a decade ago... Leica stuck to film... decision put company in financial difficulties... recently [Leica] entered digital business... owner and CEO, Andreas Kaufmann.. Leica is focussing on new markets and target groups for a profitable future.... Did your article for the Handelsblatt serve as the starting-point for Andreas Hewel's updated report on Leica Camera AG's "new markets" and "target groups" DW-Germany TV? http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,2144,3199404,00.html Axel Axel Sanders Olaf, another point, is when you stated "[Andreas Kaufmann has] some 'strong stuff' against Steven K. Lee". But didn't you get the impression it was more of a conflict of strong personalities - Kaufmann vs Lee - and a question of Leica's corporate-culture resistent to change? Axel Axel Sanders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lct Posted March 18, 2008 Share #119 Posted March 18, 2008 Who is Andreas Hewel if i may ask? Any link to his article? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Edwards Posted March 18, 2008 Share #120 Posted March 18, 2008 If this will make you feel better about having a Canon, especially when you see it's good enough for Anne Leibovitz and the Queen ... note, what's mounted on the 1Ds Mk II is a lowly 24-70 costing ONLY 1100 USD when brandnew - cheaper than the cheapest Leica. YouTube - Monarchy - Annie Leibovitz ...true, and what does royalty herself prefer?...a leica, of course... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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