Voigtlander 50/1,2 for M type II, didn't like it.

[LeAlain]

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I tried the Voigtlander 50mm 1,2 ASPH M Type II.

Both my M10's (one color and one M), thought it was a 21mm with 2,8 a the widest aperture. Very weird.

I brought it back, didn't like the unsmoothness of focussing and also the somewhat clinical look of the images.

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[wizard]

vor 34 Minuten schrieb LeAlain:

Both my M10's (one color and one M), thought it was a 21mm with 2,8 a the widest aperture. Very weird.

How on earth were your M10's able to recognize a VOIGTLANDER lens?? Voigtlander lenses do not have any 6-bit lens codes on their flange. Likely what happend is, before attaching the Voigtlander lens, you had attached a non-coded f2.8/21mm Leica lens to your M10 and manually selected that lens in the lens menu. After removing the Leica lens and detecting another non-coded lens (your new Voigtlander lens), the M10 then resorted, by default, to the last manually selected lens (the 2.8/21mm Leica lens). At least this is how my M11 works (and I actually find that quite helpful, as it saves me from having to select an uncoded lens in the lens menu again, as long as it is the previously used uncoded lens).

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[pippy]

1 hour ago, wizard said:

How on earth were your M10's able to recognize a VOIGTLANDER lens?? Voigtlander lenses do not have any 6-bit lens codes on their flange. Likely what happend is, before attaching the Voigtlander lens, you had attached a non-coded f2.8/21mm Leica lens to your M10 and manually selected that lens in the lens menu. After removing the Leica lens and detecting another non-coded lens (your new Voigtlander lens), the M10 then resorted, by default, to the last manually selected lens (the 2.8/21mm Leica lens). At least this is how my M11 works (and I actually find that quite helpful, as it saves me from having to select an uncoded lens in the lens menu again, as long as it is the previously used uncoded lens).

You are most probably correct, Wizard, although there might be another reason for the discrepancy.

Here, as an example, is a screenshot of EXIF data which shows (highlighted) that my camera had been fitted with a Tri-Elmar at the 18mm setting. For starters I know without a doubt that I was shooting with a 1974 35mm v2 Summilux. Furthermore I know that the camera isn't defaulting to a previous lens setting as I don't have a Tri-Elmar and the camera (MD 262) doesn't have a screen; hence no possibility to input data manually...

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I suppose that I really should give it a wipe before my next outing......😸......

Philip.

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[lct]

2 hours ago, wizard said:

Likely what happend is, before attaching the Voigtlander lens, you had attached a non-coded f2.8/21mm Leica lens to your M10 and manually selected that lens in the lens menu. After removing the Leica lens and detecting another non-coded lens (your new Voigtlander lens), the M10 then resorted, by default, to the last manually selected lens (the 2.8/21mm Leica lens).

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[Sandokan]

My 50/1.2 Nokton focuses smoothly as do all my other Voigtländer lenses. 

Yes, it is a modern sharp lens. Try the 50/1.5 if you want a classic smoother (less clinical) look. 

[jaapv]

4 minutes ago, Sandokan said:

Try the 50/1.5 if you want a classic smoother (less clinical) look. 

Which is my favourite lens on the M9M. Sharp and a beautiful tonal rendering.

[lct]

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1 hour ago, Sandokan said:

Try the 50/1.5 if you want a classic smoother (less clinical) look.

Which version is your Nokton 50/1.5 if i may ask? Version I or II? "MC" or "SC"? Just curious.

[pklein]

Interesting. I have the original VC 50/1.2 Nokton, bought a few years ago. I also still have the original LTM version of the 50/1.5. I really like the 50/1.2. It renders much like the 50/1.5, but with less "onion ring" bokeh--the only thing that bothered me about the 1.5. I've been quite happy with it. I don't find it overly clinical at all. To me its look is a nice blending of smooth classic and sharp modern. After I tried a borrowed 50/1.4 Summilux ASPH, I chose to buy the 50/1.2 Nokton, and I've never regretted it. Perhaps the new version was tweaked a bit more in the direction of "clinical."

All the newer VC lenses have a slightly lowered circle around the circumference of the mount (looking down on an upside down lens). This can be easily coded. Look up the Akara Labs encoder. Sean Reid recommends using the 50/1.4 Summilux ASPH code for the best corrections. He also says that the 50/1.2 Noctilux code works almost as well, and has the advantage that the f-stop estimator will detect apertures wider than f/1.4.

<https://akaralabs.com/products/leica-m-mount-lens-6-bit-encoder>