Irakly Shanidze Posted November 20 Author Share #61 Posted November 20 Advertisement (gone after registration) 27 minutes ago, JNK100 said: I handled the EVF1 at the Leicastore in London this morning. I found the EVF similar to the Q3 but without th RF it seemed just like any other camera with an EVF and an M lens. It's the RF that's makes the M special in my opinion. As the majority of M lenses are between 28 and 50 mm I cannot see a reason why I would want a MF evf camera in preference to an RF M or Q to be honest. What makes M special is the glass. Everything else is just the means. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Irakly Shanidze Posted November 20 Author Share #62 Posted November 20 3 hours ago, Mahesh said: I keep reading this but why can't you shoot fast moving with zone focusing? I shot some skaters a while ago with M10-P and I am sure I could have shot them with M EV1 as well. right, at f/16 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNK100 Posted November 20 Share #63 Posted November 20 2 minutes ago, Irakly Shanidze said: What makes M special is the glass. Everything else is just the means. If that is the case, the SL3 and Sony cameras amongst others will be options. Nothing beats an RF M for me. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcybeaucoup Posted November 20 Share #64 Posted November 20 This is excellent information. I've used a rangefinder for 10+ years, in fact swapped out my M10monochrom as part of buying this camera. While in Paris earlier this month I visited Leica Rive Gauche and bought this camera - a coup de foudre decision mostly because of the large EVF and hoping it would be easier to focus. Not always easier, so your feedback/review helps. What I am struggling with is how to adjust the diopter as I am a left eye shooter too. Any feed back would be much appreciated. I wish this little screw had #'s on it or some marking to indicate a neutral position. My method is to to turn it all the way to the left, then turn in small increments to the right until it 'seems' right - but this is an imperfect solution. Do you recommend focus peaking over manual focus? If so, why? Thanks in advance! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted November 20 Share #65 Posted November 20 43 minutes ago, Irakly Shanidze said: What makes M special is the glass. Everything else is just the means. Really? You obviously haven't tried a lot of other lenses. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted November 20 Share #66 Posted November 20 4 hours ago, Mahesh said: I keep reading this but why can't you shoot fast moving with zone focusing? I shot some skaters a while ago with M10-P and I am sure I could have shot them with M EV1 as well. No 'zone' needed, just focusing. Best is to learn how to track focus with M lenses. Not everything is going to magically cross your set 'zone' so bring the zone with you by constantly refocusing, and let depth of field cover the rest. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted November 20 Share #67 Posted November 20 Advertisement (gone after registration) 1 hour ago, Smogg said: Zone focus with Noctilux at f1?🤣 That would be a challenge even when shooting action with a rangefinder. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
algrove Posted November 20 Share #68 Posted November 20 I just might try on Waiting a few more years for a better model will not be best for old me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted November 20 Author Share #69 Posted November 20 8 hours ago, pgk said: Really? You obviously haven't tried a lot of other lenses. try me 🙂 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted November 21 Author Share #70 Posted November 21 8 hours ago, marcybeaucoup said: This is excellent information. I've used a rangefinder for 10+ years, in fact swapped out my M10monochrom as part of buying this camera. While in Paris earlier this month I visited Leica Rive Gauche and bought this camera - a coup de foudre decision mostly because of the large EVF and hoping it would be easier to focus. Not always easier, so your feedback/review helps. What I am struggling with is how to adjust the diopter as I am a left eye shooter too. Any feed back would be much appreciated. I wish this little screw had #'s on it or some marking to indicate a neutral position. My method is to to turn it all the way to the left, then turn in small increments to the right until it 'seems' right - but this is an imperfect solution. Do you recommend focus peaking over manual focus? If so, why? Thanks in advance! Just turn the camera upside down and adjust the diopter with your left hand. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted November 21 Author Share #71 Posted November 21 7 hours ago, SrMi said: That would be a challenge even when shooting action with a rangefinder. you don't say... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 10 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/425388-first-impressions-%E2%80%94-leica-ev-1-m/?do=findComment&comment=5896303'>More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted November 21 Author Share #72 Posted November 21 7 hours ago, charlesphoto99 said: No 'zone' needed, just focusing. Best is to learn how to track focus with M lenses. Not everything is going to magically cross your set 'zone' so bring the zone with you by constantly refocusing, and let depth of field cover the rest. Better yet, you don't even need to touch the focus ring; simply get in sync with the target and move your body back and forth. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frame-it Posted November 21 Share #73 Posted November 21 the OP is an amazing photographer and a DOP/Director...amazing how people are arguing with his opinion without presenting their own photos as proof to the contrary [in their experience] 🤣 3 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted November 21 Author Share #74 Posted November 21 9 hours ago, JNK100 said: If that is the case, the SL3 and Sony cameras amongst others will be options. Nothing beats an RF M for me. Of course, there is compactness and unobtrusiveness of the M body, which should not be discounted. However, if we only talk about the "Leica look", the only thing that you cannot achieve without is the glass. Don't get me wrong: I am not against RF. I've been shooting rangefinder cameras for more than half of my life. I've learned all the advantages and limitations of the RF design from experience, not from a friend. I shoot ballet with RF, for God's sake! Yet, I maintain that EVF, in some instances, is superior to RF, and it allows me to use fast lenses with higher precision. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irakly Shanidze Posted November 21 Author Share #75 Posted November 21 4 minutes ago, frame-it said: the OP is an amazing photographer and a DOP/Director...amazing how people are arguing with his opinion without presenting their own photos as proof to the contrary [in their experience] 🤣 You are too kind, my friend. It is just sooooo much easier to talk about photography than to actually do it 🙂 9 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgk Posted November 21 Share #76 Posted November 21 (edited) 8 hours ago, frame-it said: the OP is an amazing photographer and a DOP/Director...amazing how people are arguing with his opinion without presenting their own photos as proof to the contrary [in their experience] 🤣 How can a few images 'prove' that some gear is not ideal for the purpose to which it is being put? I've illustrated that yes, you can shoot unpredictable action images with a rangefinder and yes, you can do with a manual focus lens on an evf camera, but that is not the point is it? There are vastly better solutions available. As for lenses well, nuances are important to some however in 45 yrears of professional photography I have never had my choice of lens queried by a client. Whether I shot on Leica, Nikon, Canon or Sony, ALL yielded great results. I really can't be bothered commenting further. Edited November 21 by pgk 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derbyshire Man Posted November 21 Share #77 Posted November 21 8 hours ago, Irakly Shanidze said: You are too kind, my friend. It is just sooooo much easier to talk about photography than to actually do it 🙂 They are great images and all the more great considering the limitations of the rangefinder/EV1. Agree, a Canon R5Mk2 with a zoom is a total different prospect from an M with a fixed focal length lens, the latter invisible in comparison. It's a demonstration that labouring for one's art can and does pay off! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted November 21 Share #78 Posted November 21 Some of the posts here appear to imply that anyone could take shots like the OP if they had a technically better camera. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted November 21 Share #79 Posted November 21 A camera allows us to freeze a moment in time. They all essentially do the same thing and of course, AF and tracking make things easier in many scenarios. Some of us are not inspired to shoot this way though. What actually gets you in front of good moments is to have the will, motivation and inspiration to do it in my opinion, this is where specific camera gear like a rangefinder or a favourite lens can make a difference. Not for everyone but for some people. Lovely dance pics btw. 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 21 Share #80 Posted November 21 On 11/13/2025 at 7:49 AM, Irakly Shanidze said: I was referring to the shutter lag, of course. The blackout may be shorter with smaller resolutions, but it is so small to begin with that it's hard to assess in real-world situations. The shutter lag, on the other hand, is noticeable at 60 mpix, but that's exactly what other resolutions are for. Besides, the lower the resolution, the higher the dynamic range. So, 60 mpix is great for a controlled environment, while 18 is invaluable for run-and-gun scenarios not only because of better responsiveness but also because it is much more resilient to high-contrast light. If this is the case, it must be earlier, before or during the sensor readout. Otherwise the image is already "fixed". I think that you are seeing a sensor lag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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