mboerma Posted October 28 Share #1 Posted October 28 Advertisement (gone after registration) Can you use the Visoflex 2 on the M EV1? Since the M EV1 doesn’t have an articulating screen it might be handy in some cases to be able to use the Visoflex 2. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SrMi Posted October 28 Share #2 Posted October 28 3 minutes ago, mboerma said: Can you use the Visoflex 2 on the M EV1? Since the M EV1 doesn’t have an articulating screen it might be handy in some cases to be able to use the Visoflex 2. No. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mboerma Posted October 28 Author Share #3 Posted October 28 Tried it? Or is it in the manual? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmars Posted October 28 Share #4 Posted October 28 vor einer Stunde schrieb mboerma: Tried it? Or is it in the manual? Tried this. No contacts. 1 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWColor Posted October 28 Share #5 Posted October 28 (edited) Ah.. the big upgrade to M-EV2. Save up now for the extra $1000, but will probably be tilting LCD. Edited October 28 by BWColor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 28 Share #6 Posted October 28 11 minutes ago, BWColor said: Ah.. the big upgrade to M-EV2. Save up now for the extra $1000, but will probably be tilting LCD. An M-EV2 will be everything that an M12 will be, except for an EVF instead of a rangefinder. It will also have all the focus aids that an M12 has. I guess. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 28 Share #7 Posted October 28 Advertisement (gone after registration) 49 minutes ago, SrMi said: An M-EV2 will be everything that an M12 will be, except for an EVF instead of a rangefinder. It will also have all the focus aids that an M12 has. I guess. An interesting question. If that is the case, why didn't they call it the M11-EV1? Just because it was too long a name? Or because they see the potential for divergent M lines? If the latter, then the M-EV2 could have a tilt screen, perhaps to go with reintroduced limited video functionality (as well as IBIS, shared with the M12). Plus (with unconstrained speculation) a different processor, better to handle EVF, focus aids and video. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 28 Share #8 Posted October 28 2 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: An interesting question. If that is the case, why didn't they call it the M11-EV1? Just because it was too long a name? Or because they see the potential for divergent M lines? If the latter, then the M-EV2 could have a tilt screen, perhaps to go with reintroduced limited video functionality (as well as IBIS, shared with the M12). Plus (with unconstrained speculation) a different processor, better to handle EVF, focus aids and video. If they diverge too much from the core M line, body and software, the cost would increase considerable as if they had launched a new line. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted October 28 Share #9 Posted October 28 Just now, SrMi said: If they diverge too much from the core M line, body and software, the cost would increase considerable as if they had launched a new line. They will find out soon enough, with the EV1, if the likely cost is worth the likely return. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BWColor Posted October 29 Share #10 Posted October 29 6 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: An interesting question. If that is the case, why didn't they call it the M11-EV1? Just because it was too long a name? Or because they see the potential for divergent M lines? If the latter, then the M-EV2 could have a tilt screen, perhaps to go with reintroduced limited video functionality (as well as IBIS, shared with the M12). Plus (with unconstrained speculation) a different processor, better to handle EVF, focus aids and video. This was a mass test market of a camera that cost little to bring to market. The reception will allow them to decide what their next step will be. The problem with this approach is that to test the viability of such a product, they either needed a far lower price, or features that make it easier, more pleasant to use the camera. I suspect that many would have purchased if there was a super resolution fast refresh EVF, or some form of focus verification and a tilting bright LCD screen. This would have made the price more palatable. I’m guessing that these upgrades would start with, at minimum, the Maestro 4. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted October 29 Share #11 Posted October 29 18 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said: An interesting question. If that is the case, why didn't they call it the M11-EV1? Just because it was too long a name? Or because they see the potential for divergent M lines? If the latter, then the M-EV2 could have a tilt screen, perhaps to go with reintroduced limited video functionality (as well as IBIS, shared with the M12). As I understand it, the current Leica M11 (and previously the M10) don’t have video mainly because of heat dissipation constraints that come with the return to the slimmer, classic M body. If Leica wants to stay true to the current body thickness and dimensions, then adding things like a tilt screen, video, or IBIS seems very unlikely. So the real question is — who actually wants one, two, or all three of these features if it means giving up the current M form factor in one way or another? That said, the thermal-body design of recent Apple iPhones is quite promising — especially the new “vapor chamber” cooling system Apple designed to carry heat away from the chip and into the aluminum unibody. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew Gough Posted October 29 Share #12 Posted October 29 The lack of a tilting scene is a very large oversight, IMHO. No provisioning for the visoflex 2 is an equally dumb move. Whoever signed off on this, needs an elementary course in marketing. Not having a tilt screen, kinda kills the whole Q upgrade path. For new consumers, considering a move to the M-EV1, will undoubtedly, be coming from a a mirrorless camera with a tilt screen... The only thing that the M-EV1 has over an SL3 is weight and form factor. The SL3 is cheaper, offers a better EVF experience, a tilt screen, and IBIS.... The M11 is 1.52 inches deep. My SL3 is 1.74 inches deep at the sensor. Just saying' 🤔 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlashGordonPhotography Posted October 29 Share #13 Posted October 29 And if you add all those things to the EV1 you'll end up with a SL2 sized camera. Except it'll be thicker because the M sensor plane is further forward than the M, leaving more room behind. The EV1 is battery constrained. *Maybe* the newer processor is more efficient, but I won't make up for the smaller battery and sensor location. The Q3 IS is in the lens. So not that body either. Leica has record profits, so I'll go along with they know what they're doing in the marketing department. Gordon 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stef63 Posted October 29 Share #14 Posted October 29 (edited) 5 hours ago, Andrew Gough said: The M11 is 1.52 inches deep. My SL3 is 1.74 inches deep at the sensor. Just saying' 🤔 The flange distance of an M is different than an L / SL. There is no room behind the sensor for a tilt screen on an M11 unless the body thickness needs to be considerably increased. Edited October 29 by Stef63 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DadDadDaddyo Posted November 1 Share #15 Posted November 1 I'll be surprised if we don't start to see discussions of accessory shoe optical finders here before long.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted November 4 Share #16 Posted November 4 On 10/29/2025 at 1:18 PM, Andrew Gough said: The only thing that the M-EV1 has over an SL3 is weight and form factor. Not that I'm much of an EV-1 defender, but it does need to be remembered that it also brings micro-lensing and thinner cover glass to the table as well. Important if you're shooting on the wide end and care about corner performance. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tseg Posted November 7 Share #17 Posted November 7 I guess I’ll stick with my M11-D, Visoflex 2 with articulating mount, and 90mm APO for now. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/425105-visoflex-2-and-m-ev1/?do=findComment&comment=5890051'>More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 7 Share #18 Posted November 7 On 11/4/2025 at 10:56 PM, Tailwagger said: Not that I'm much of an EV-1 defender, but it does need to be remembered that it also brings micro-lensing and thinner cover glass to the table as well. Important if you're shooting on the wide end and care about corner performance. But the SL series sensors have been optimized for M lens performance too. For instance elliptical microlenses and a specific IR filter. They don’t quite reach M performance but close enough for daily use. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted November 7 Share #19 Posted November 7 On 10/29/2025 at 6:18 PM, Andrew Gough said: The lack of a tilting scene is a very large oversight, IMHO. No provisioning for the visoflex 2 is an equally dumb move. Whoever signed off on this, needs an elementary course in marketing. Not having a tilt screen, kinda kills the whole Q upgrade path. For new consumers, considering a move to the M-EV1, will undoubtedly, be coming from a a mirrorless camera with a tilt screen... The only thing that the M-EV1 has over an SL3 is weight and form factor. The SL3 is cheaper, offers a better EVF experience, a tilt screen, and IBIS.... The M11 is 1.52 inches deep. My SL3 is 1.74 inches deep at the sensor. Just saying' 🤔 I had cameras with a tilt screen. Never used it. A flip screen makes more sense as you can hide and protect the LCD. For most users- who rarely photograph mushrooms or at arms’ length above their head, a tilt screen is more of a sales argument than a practical feature. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailwagger Posted November 7 Share #20 Posted November 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, jaapv said: But the SL series sensors have been optimized for M lens performance too. For instance elliptical microlenses and a specific IR filter. They don’t quite reach M performance but close enough for daily use. Can't speak to any improvements with the SL3, I can only say that I personally find the 2's corner performance unacceptable for wide and ultrawide use. There are, of course a zillion sorts of shots where this limitation doesn't matter a whit which I assume is why so many are content shooting M on SL. But not, for example with something like this recent shot, which required the lines of the steel work be as sharp as possible in the opposing corners. From past experience and testing, I'm certain the SL2 would have struggled with this. So sure, the SL's M-mount performance exceeds that of SoNiCons. But much depends on one's tolerance of flaws when dealing with $6K lens on a $7.5K body and what sort of image making constitutes daily use. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M11 WATE 16mm Edited November 7 by Tailwagger Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! M11 WATE 16mm ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/425105-visoflex-2-and-m-ev1/?do=findComment&comment=5890132'>More sharing options...
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