Leica M EV1: The first M with EVF instead of Rangefinder

[FrankGosebruch]

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vor 8 Minuten schrieb lct:

I had to kneel down with the Visoflex2 to take this photo, and with my arthose, i couldn't do it with a rangefinder nor the MEV1 presumably. I don't know if it would have been possible to mount a tilting EVF in the MEV1 body while keeping the dimensions of the M11, but again, to be honest, Leica never promised that.

I see! So why would you, or any other customer in your physical condition, then purchase the M EV1 now?

You can't use it near ground level or overhead or on a microscope etc. For me, it is just a disadvantage compared to my M11 P with Visoflex 2. Ok, who cares, who am I? I didn't need to kneel down for this picture just because of the flip-up Visoflex: https://gosebru.ch/media/images/Monrepos b 2025 21mm Summilux IR.jpg

At a 3-feet level!

But just forget it. Just continue to be happy with what Leica offers you (I'm not).

I'm out...

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[jaapv]

Why, that is very easily and cheaply solved. 

https://www.gadgetvenue.com/flipbac-camera-screen-mirror-01062153/

[charlesphoto99]

34 minutes ago, lct said:

I had to kneel down with the Visoflex2 to take this photo, and with my arthose, i couldn't do it with a rangefinder nor the MEV1 presumably. I don't know if it would have been possible to mount a tilting EVF in the MEV1 body while keeping the dimensions of the M11, but again, to be honest, Leica never promised that.

I think most could take that photo, no EVF necessary, as it's such a wide shot with lots of depth of field. Just focus, take the camera away from the eye, and drop it to the ground as low as you want it. Or over the head for the opposite effect. Here's one with a 28 on an M9. No way was I going to splay on the floor to take the shot, so I kneeled down or bent over (it's been awhile) as low as I could go, got approximate focus with the rf, lower the camera the rest of the way, and shot away. Of course, if you need a precise f1.4 shot like that, or exacting composition then you need the tilting screen. 

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Edited yesterday at 04:45 PM by charlesphoto99

[lct]

1 minute ago, FrankGosebruch said:

I see! So why would you, or any other customer in your physical condition, then purchase the M EV1 now?

Simply to get the best mirrorless camera for M lenses in the world or the galaxy 😉 The qualities of the M11 without the hassle to put an accessory EVF on top of the body.

[charlesphoto99]

5 minutes ago, jaapv said:

Why, that is very easily and cheaply solved. 

https://www.gadgetvenue.com/flipbac-camera-screen-mirror-01062153/

Only $14, unless one is a Leica M owner then it will be $599 (it's the tax for whining so much). 

[kiwidad]

5 hours ago, chemist said:

Well, that simply means that the world does not rotate around the US. And that is for good reason.

I agree, but.. it a big market and they would have to be nuts to go to production and risk costly modification after manufacturing to not do it!

[BWColor]

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6 minutes ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Only $14, unless one is a Leica M owner then it will be $599 (it's the tax for whining so much). 

That link is from 2009.  In 2025 this feature is included as a camera body feature.  Is this company even in business?

[jaapv]

No idea, but it is such a simple thing that I am sure that others can be found

 

[BWColor]

5 hours ago, chemist said:

Well, that simply means that the world does not rotate around the US. And that is for good reason.

Lots of recent evidence that this might not be an accurate statement, but delaying a camera introduction because a dysfunctional U.S. government is shut down would be a bit too much.

[steve edmunds]

4 hours ago, maxpower said:

Easily? A slightly larger sensor will require more power, processing, cost more (I think the only next size available sensor is the digital medium format one), more physical space within already incredibly tight dimensions (plus I'm not sure if the image circle is big enough to even have this work), all to then just end up cropping the image so you only capture what's "inside the framelines". 

But I'm also not convinced that seeing the "outside" works as well if what you are looking at is through the lens, if you are using 90 or 135mm for example what really is the added benefit of seeing a tiny bit more "outside" the frame? I'm not sure it will show enough extra to make meaningful decisions based on it, whereas on the regular rangefinder you always have the same field of view when looking through it regardless of focal length. 

no help at all if your left eye dominant like me

[algrove]

26 minutes ago, BWColor said:

That link is from 2009.  In 2025 this feature is included as a camera body feature.  Is this company even in business?

hey probably stopped making it since from shortly after 2009 most brands have implemented tilt LCD.

[JNK100]

1 hour ago, charlesphoto99 said:

Only $14, unless one is a Leica M owner then it will be $599 (it's the tax for whining so much). 

Where is the red dot? 😉

[IkarusJohn]

3 hours ago, FrankGosebruch said:

Well, above I already wrote about it: Just size up the sensor and shutter.

Just read!

So, all you’re talking about is including cropping lines in the viewfinder.

[OfeyKalakar]

On 10/23/2025 at 11:25 AM, JHPINLA said:

Updated CL is a much better idea!

Yes because it's a unique product that will not damage the M, Q or SL markets. They can build on the small interchangeable lens form factor of the CL and use it as a platform for a hybrid global shutter video and stills camera with a focus on the new Leitz cinema line of lenses and the Leica Home Cinema portfolio.

[jaapv]

Just open your left eye. Voila instant 120 degrees view…

[Kiwimac]

7 hours ago, elmars said:

Video is not the whole world. I have a chapter about battery life in my review:

 

Having seen the herd of YouTubers Leica flew to Germany for the launch, Leica clearly think YT is the whole world 🤣

 

A single tactical strike could have dealt to just about every YT channel that ever mentioned Leica!

[Kiwimac]

2 hours ago, JNK100 said:

Where is the red dot? 😉

It’s a $500 extra. 

[algrove]

57 minutes ago, Kiwimac said:

It’s a $500 extra. 

Wait a minute, how can that be? It costs about $1000 to remove it from the M11 for an M11M.

Edited 19 hours ago by algrove

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[lik]

vor 13 Stunden schrieb jaapv:

 

 

Yeah-but Leica had enough trouble squeezing this one into a 1954 body.  See the M8 and the M11 would have IBIS if there were any space. The Hasselblad was designed ground up around the larger sensor. Engineering wise a completely different proposition. 

Yes, and that’s why a simple rule doesn’t work.