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1 hour ago, pedaes said:

There are frame lines* which give a pretty good representation of the lenses field of view (and without trying to be to detailed, have to mention these move with focus to compensate for parallax as lens and viewfinder are on different planes). Also need to understand inner and outer edges of lines as per the Manual. 

(The discussion was debating whether the 35mm frame lines are a good, or not, proxy for a 40mm lens)

Then there are the rangefinder split image 'lines?' used for focus.

I think.

Now, what was the question?

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Thanks, I found  the manual and I believe I have it clear. I was actually interested by the little lever close to the lens that I never used. Now it’s clear. 
Actually I don’t think that is foi to be useful for me but thanks 

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Eh? In what way? The M11-D - just like the Leica 1 - can be used perfectly well without having access to a 'phone. It offers control over ISO; shutter-speed; aperture; focus. Anything else is mer

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Well, this is easy: 50 + 50 = 100 years of Leica  😅

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Requiring far less internal 'packaging' helps in these matters quite a lot. Plus it didn't have to deal with the "Where shall we fit all this rangefinder gubbins?' problem... 😸 But yes; a Le

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25 minutes ago, thierry40 said:

little lever close to the lens

I personally think it's there for aesthetic/nostalgic reasons. Leica dropped it a couple of bodies back but there was a clammer to bring it back so they did. It is sometimes useful to check what result a different focal length would deliver - which is of course its purpose 

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3 hours ago, thierry40 said:

Popping in the conv. Is there a discussion about the range finder lines ? I am new to it and although I use one lens mainly, I would love to understand. Thanks is 

They're all wrong. You get used to it after a bit.

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11 hours ago, pippy said:

You are quite correct; in the world of digital photography creating the range of D cameras most certainly was a novelty.

Here - for the avoidance of any doubt - is the very first entry / definition of 'Novelty' from the Oxford Dictionary;

"Noun: novelty : 1. The quality of being new, original, or unusual..." 
 
The entire ethos behind the D cameras fits in with this definition. Were they a new concept? Yes. Was the models' prime-difference original? Yes. Was it - and are they still to this day - unusual? Yes.
 
Carry On!
 
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Hi Philip this is my last post as i couldn't help but notice your google search has this below it 

2. a small and inexpensive toy or ornament. 
 
Sorry couldn't help myself but that's hilarious. i'm going away now
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Hi Philip this is my last post as i couldn't help but notice your google search has this below it 

2. a small and inexpensive toy or ornament. 
 
Sorry couldn't help myself but that's hilarious. i'm going away now

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Yes; it IS rather amusing and is, of course, the meaning which is more commonly understood today. With the possible exception of 'small', however, none of those definitions, I would submit, can truly be said to describe the D cameras which is in complete contrast to the way in which all of the first entry's definitions can.

Photographers who have chosen these screenless variants fully understand that they are very much in the minority; otherwise Leica would have made the cameras in far higher quantities! Regardless; we will carry on snapping with them quite happily in this merry little universe of our own and where 'Screen' is a four-letter word(*)......😸......

Have fun with whichever camera takes your fancy and may you have the best of good fortune with it.

Philip.

* This is meant somewhat tongue-in-cheek as I have a 'screened' M as well and do, of course, make use of the menu on that body.

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On 7/1/2025 at 10:08 PM, pedaes said:

I personally think it's there for aesthetic/nostalgic reasons. Leica dropped it a couple of bodies back but there was a clammer to bring it back so they did. It is sometimes useful to check what result a different focal length would deliver - which is of course its purpose 

As it happens, Keith, I will frequently verify framing using the F/L lever when I'm shooting with my 1954 35mm Summaron as that lens predates the appearance of any M with 35mm framelines in the viewfinder. Instead the lines for a 50mm are selected.

Having used the lens for 45 years now (:o) I usually have a pretty good idea of how much 'extra' will be captured but, still, the lever has very often been a Boon and a Blessing! 

Philip.

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producing cameras that have no screen or only shoot monochrome is pretty amazing and Leica deserve massive credit for this in my view. 

also i have a 1960 50mm f2.8 elmar which i can put on my M camera [M262] without any fuss or adaptors etc which is so cool in my opinion, so i for one totally back this special edition Leica and wish i could afford to buy it.

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On 7/14/2025 at 4:07 PM, Elliot Harper said:

too much. I got something similar from ali express for $5

Temu is also offering me fake M’s for a tenth of the price, yet, if I buy, I would rather buy the real thing..

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1 hour ago, Olaf_ZG said:

Temu is also offering me fake M’s for a tenth of the price, yet, if I buy, I would rather buy the real thing..

A hot shoe cover is different from a camera.

I bought a thumb grip for M11 from a Chinese manufacturer with less 20% of the original one Leica charged. That one looks identical to the original one sold by dealer, even with Leica logo/label on it. It turned out it's a OEM factory for Leica's accessories selling some leftovers. So for $20 I got a $120 thumb grip. Why not.

Camera body is a different story.  You can easily tell if it's fake or real, aesthetically and/or functionally. But a thumb grip, it looks same and functions same.

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As tempting as the duplicates are $$, patents and intellectual property is ignored, buying the originating companies item supports companies and assures their continued existence.  Since the film days the number of photographic companies has declined with the loss of both great German and Japanese firms.  I would love if Rollei, Zeiss, Minolta, Topcon were continuing to produce the beautiful equipment they once did.  

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6 hours ago, darylgo said:

As tempting as the duplicates are $$, patents and intellectual property is ignored, buying the originating companies item supports companies and assures their continued existence.  Since the film days the number of photographic companies has declined with the loss of both great German and Japanese firms.  I would love if Rollei, Zeiss, Minolta, Topcon were continuing to produce the beautiful equipment they once did.  

Can you enlighten me what kind of patent or IP a hot shoe or a thumb grip has?

 

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7 hours ago, T25UFO said:

Hmm . . . not sure about patents, it's more about the 'knock off' society.  Buy a fake Rolex for $50 and pretend it's the real thing.  Makes some people happy.

The way things are headed, some of those super clone Rolexes will still get you stabbed and robbed in some cities. 
 

I’ve seen one up close and the watch was barely distinguishable from the real thing. It even had the RFID chip in the warranty card!

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11 hours ago, T25UFO said:

Hmm . . . not sure about patents, it's more about the 'knock off' society.  Buy a fake Rolex for $50 and pretend it's the real thing.  Makes some people happy.

Again, you are comparing a watch with a piece of plastic/aluminum (hot shoe cover).

I found this world is so diverse that literally I can't reason with certain people.

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On 7/15/2025 at 9:59 PM, Elliot Harper said:

looks identical to the original one sold by dealer, even with Leica logo/label on it

This is Counterfeit. It is illegal.

Fully agree with @darylgo and @darylgo

 

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4 hours ago, Elliot Harper said:

I found this world is so diverse that literally I can't reason with certain people.

Then I feel sorry for you - that’s a genuine comment, I really do.  Perhaps you need to reflect on the fact that the people you can’t reason with might actually be right 🙂

I support the comments made by @didier and @darylgo on this

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