da_eltsch Posted June 12 Share #81 Posted June 12 Advertisement (gone after registration) Am 10.6.2025 um 15:43 schrieb jaapv: Long gone are the times that Leica lenses were built by gnomes in caves deep in the Bavarian mountains Are you really sure? ... one of the red dots on my equipment looks like a tiny fingerprint 😉 I am so happy that the SL System is part of the L-Mount Alliance so that I can use those different offerings. I have some glas from Panasonic, Sigma and Leica, use an S1RII at the moment, investigate in a Laowa 55mm Tilt-Shift, play with the idea of using the S-Lenses via adapter (meaning ... a used SL2 could be useful) 😄 ... in my case it is all a hobby, but the latest bodies made the Sony I still used for sports photography (competitive table-tennis) obsolete. Happy L-mount camper here 🙂 To add to the thread: I have no interest in a 28-70 mm at all, this range I cover with the Pana 24-70 Best regards 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Planetwide Posted June 12 Share #82 Posted June 12 On 6/10/2025 at 5:48 PM, Oxfordian said: My question still exists, what lenses do you want Leica to release, you seem to bemoan the lack of 'true' Leica lenses but don't offer suggestions of what these special or unique lenses should be. I guess that in reality you don't actually know what you want you just don't want what Leica are doing at the moment. Anyway I've had enough and have images to take so I'm out of here. Thanks for the discussion. How about A SL Summilux line of primes. Version II of the 24-90mm, which is showing its age. Heck the already announced 24mm Summicron would be nice. I agree with Vkdev, I didn't buy into Leica to shoot rebranded Sigma's. Sigma's own L lenses are cheaper, lighter, and just as good as the rebranded lenses. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted June 12 Share #83 Posted June 12 1 hour ago, Planetwide said: How about A SL Summilux line of primes. Version II of the 24-90mm, which is showing its age. Heck the already announced 24mm Summicron would be nice. I agree with Vkdev, I didn't buy into Leica to shoot rebranded Sigma's. Sigma's own L lenses are cheaper, lighter, and just as good as the rebranded lenses. Choice is good, right? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CodyChoi Posted June 12 Share #84 Posted June 12 Leica 28-70 2.8 - will you buy ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tjazz Posted June 12 Share #85 Posted June 12 (edited) Other than weight, I really don’t see the point if one already manages well with the 24-90 or 24-70. Edited June 12 by Tjazz Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ta3583 Posted June 12 Share #86 Posted June 12 Sigma 24-70 DG DN II is so much better 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tpau17 Posted June 12 Share #87 Posted June 12 Advertisement (gone after registration) no, I'll stay with my 24-90 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraf Posted June 12 Share #88 Posted June 12 Strikes me as pointless, unless I’ve missed something. Giving up the 24 capability at the wide end. I’m perfectly happy with my Leica (S*gma) 24-70 VE. Maybe the pixel-peepers will subsequently prove me wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted June 12 Share #89 Posted June 12 Solves a problem I don't have. I have the 24-90 and use it intensively. I'm sure it will be great for some, especially as a 'kit' lens for a starter in the SL system. I started with the original SL with just the 24-90 and, when it became available, the 90-280. It was a long time after that when I bought some (Apo) primes. I could probably still manage perfectly well with just the two zooms. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimleicam3 Posted June 12 Share #90 Posted June 12 I will be very interested because of the weight savings compared to my 24-70. As I age, weight makes a big difference while walking around. I will continue to use my 21 mm M lens for wide use. Now I will need to decide if it is worth upgrading my SL2-s to the SL3-s for the bundle savings. Cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 12 Share #91 Posted June 12 5 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: I'm sure it will be great for some, especially as a 'kit' lens for a starter in the SL system. Leica's page emphasizes the kit-lens aspect, so it's for new customers rather than those who already have a similar zoom. I would have preferred something even smaller, like Panasonic's kit zooms, but there's so much static whenever Leica releases a variable aperture lens that they must have preferred to play it safe. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BernardC Posted June 12 Share #92 Posted June 12 2 minutes ago, jimleicam3 said: I will be very interested because of the weight savings compared to my 24-70. It's roughly 300g lighter: 613g w/hood, vs. 906g. That's a significant difference. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff S Posted June 12 Share #93 Posted June 12 Plus shorter (21mm) and thinner (67 vs 82mm filter size). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted June 12 Share #94 Posted June 12 is nobody going to mention that it is another Sigma-rebranded lens? I use 24-90 and 24-70, there is a place for both of them. the 28-70 is the smaller lighter and more affordable lens, I can see it is a good lens for people to get started with. in competition in size and weight is the PANA 24-60 2.8. To me, 24 mm is more useful than 28, but I would have to test the optical weakness of both at the wide and tele in real life. Historically sigma lenses perform better optically, but the PANA lenses gain extra functionality combined with PANA cameras, like better IBIS, power zoom in video to 2,x and button control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aram Langhans Posted June 12 Share #95 Posted June 12 2 hours ago, Planetwide said: How about A SL Summilux line of primes. Version II of the 24-90mm, which is showing its age. Heck the already announced 24mm Summicron would be nice. I agree with Vkdev, I didn't buy into Leica to shoot rebranded Sigma's. Sigma's own L lenses are cheaper, lighter, and just as good as the rebranded lenses. An APO macro that will blow the socks off all other macros. Like they did with my 100 APO for the R that I still use. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybarton Posted June 12 Share #96 Posted June 12 The SL3-S with this lens (as the kit announced today) is about £500 cheaper than a Q43. Which would appear to make it a “bargain”, in Leica terms. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
buj Posted June 12 Share #97 Posted June 12 nope! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
S Maclean Posted June 12 Share #98 Posted June 12 On the previous (pre-release)_ tread about this lens I was quite adamant that I did not need it as i have the 24-70 (sigma DN II) Whch outpreforms the leica version. This said, as I sober up a little, IF the optical performance and fast focus is at par or better than the 24-70 then, I have to admit, it will end up in my bag based on size. Waiting on the reviews and, perhaps, on playiong with it on hand a bit to see if it makes a difference. In theory i don’t want to care about weight and size ver performance, but, the 24-90, despite it’s incredible and unique space in the lineup ended up being traded for the 24-70. And the summilux sl does not get used as much as I’d like to (while summilux 50 is my got to on M above APO, Cron etc) So, yes, I’ll take a good look at this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted June 12 Share #99 Posted June 12 No. I have the Sigma. And don’t use it that often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mirrorless Posted June 12 Share #100 Posted June 12 (edited) My combo Q3 28mm together with the SL3 + 75mm APO F2 basically provides a FL from 25mm (Actual FL of the Q3) until approximately 135mm with the great cropping possibilities of both cameras. And this several stops faster vs. F2.8, better bokeh and I have a backup camera with me. Not to speak from the overall image quality vs. the zoom. The new 28-70mm would only be interesting for Video in my case but there I use the lighter 20-60mm Panasonic on the gimbal. A 50mm-150mm like Sony showed recently would be great... Edited June 12 by mirrorless 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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