tappan Posted April 8 Share #21 Â Posted April 8 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 hours ago, PaulJohn said: I found a video with side by side comparisons with Leica Q2. I was able to screen grab the Summaron and the Q2 photos and use LR to mimic the Summaron rather well. It's not perfect by any means but it's close enough to a level where one is not 'better' than the other. At least to me. My alterations were primarily a radial filter to vignette and soften the corners and tweaks to HSL, WB and Presence. Interestingly what worked for one photo did not work for the other photos. They required different adjustments so I am nowhere near creating a preset that mimics the summaron for all subjects/conditions. No doubt part of the charm of this lens is using it. That's another subject. I liked most of the Summaron photos better, in his comparison. Â 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted April 8 Posted April 8 Hi tappan, Take a look here 28mm Summaron f5.6 rendering. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
wattsy Posted April 9 Share #22  Posted April 9 I've used the 28mm f/5.6 pretty much exclusively (at least when using a Leica M) since it came out (2017?) and do think it has a very different lens signature to modern 28mm lenses. I'm not sentimental about lenses and would have gone back to other lenses if I didn't believe the Summaron-M was worth it. One thing I would say is that I think the lens works best with film. On digital, the vignetting becomes exaggerated (possibly because of the angle of light rays hitting the sensor) and overall ends up looking more generically digital. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!    5 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members!    ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420324-28mm-summaron-f56-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5783889'>More sharing options...
pedaes Posted April 9 Share #23  Posted April 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, wattsy said: vignetting On digital M bodies, I find the vignetting is significantly (disproportionately) less at f8 compared to f5.6. (first f5.6) Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited April 9 by pedaes 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420324-28mm-summaron-f56-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5783912'>More sharing options...
Sharpdressed Posted April 9 Share #24  Posted April 9 To me the most interesting thing about the 28 Summaron is the rendering at f5.6. It’s also nice that you can shoot it wide open in a full sunny day even on film without nd filters. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJohn Posted April 24 Author Share #25  Posted April 24 I found a great deal on a used copy so I decided to buy one after all and am having a lot of fun with it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 6 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420324-28mm-summaron-f56-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5791729'>More sharing options...
pedaes Posted April 24 Share #26  Posted April 24 5 minutes ago, PaulJohn said: I found a great deal on a used copy so I decided to buy one after all and am having a lot of fun with it. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Enjoy! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malabito Posted April 25 Share #27  Posted April 25 Advertisement (gone after registration) I have the 28mm Summicron (I think it's version 1, not sure, the one with the plastic lens hood) and the new Summaron. I love using the Summaron because of its size, and in some weird way because it limits how I shoot due to the aperture. But now, with the new Voigtländer Skopar lenses, which are also small but f/2.8, I've been debating whether I should sell the Summaron and get the Voigtländer Skopar lenses, the 28mm and the 50mm f/2.2. The 35mm f/3.5 also looks quite appealing, but I am more of a 28mm shooter. I cant tell if the summaron has some special rendering or not, but i do like the results, even though sometimes i found the vigeting a bit on the extreme side. Some images below with the 28mm summaron, (m11, and one with the sl2s): Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420324-28mm-summaron-f56-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5791908'>More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted April 25 Share #28  Posted April 25 I know you went out and bought one, so for the record... I loved my Summaron when I had one. I found it head and shoulders above the ttartisan 28mm f/5.6. I was unable to find a copy of the ttartisan lens without a huge amount of veiling flare wide open, whenever there was even a hint of a light source near the centre of the frame. So I gave up on it, which is a shame because it can be good, just not against the light. What I found with the Summaron is that in bright conditions you need to meter for the centre and bring the corners up when processing the image (on a digital M). If you try to balance the image via the screen/histogram when shooting then the centre is easily over exposed. Common sense really. I have the newish VM Skopar f/2.8 too, and it's a very nice lens, very compact, but it does lack a bit of character if you know what I mean - a bit too perfect. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malabito Posted April 25 Share #29  Posted April 25 2 minutes ago, Tessar. said: I know you went out and bought one, so for the record... I loved my Summaron when I had one. I found it head and shoulders above the ttartisan 28mm f/5.6. I was unable to find a copy of the ttartisan lens without a huge amount of veiling flare wide open, whenever there was even a hint of a light source near the centre of the frame. So I gave up on it, which is a shame because it can be good, just not against the light. What I found with the Summaron is that in bright conditions you need to meter for the centre and bring the corners up when processing the image (on a digital M). If you try to balance the image via the screen/histogram when shooting then the centre is easily over exposed. Common sense really. I have the newish VM Skopar f/2.8 too, and it's a very nice lens, very compact, but it does lack a bit of character if you know what I mean - a bit too perfect. So the new voigtlander is more like a summicron? I have the summicron and the summaron, and been thinking of changing my summaron for the voigtlander Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tessar. Posted April 26 Share #30  Posted April 26 6 hours ago, Malabito said: So the new voigtlander is more like a summicron? I have the summicron and the summaron, and been thinking of changing my summaron for the voigtlander Yeah, it's more like the Summicron than the Summaron. I would say the Summicron is nicer than the VM but obviously much bigger. I did have a v1 28mm Summicron and really liked it, and I had the limited edition matt black v2 Summicron, very similar to the new one, but I somehow preferred the v1. I know the Summicron is smaller than the Summilux, but it's still pretty big, hence the move to the VM Skopar. I'm actually waiting on the Skylanney/Omnar conversion of the 28mm f/3.5 lens out of the Nikon Lite Touch/AF-600 compact. which is coming soon. I know it will be super expensive for what it is but will be worth it for me, as it will be tiny and sharp and I don't shoot in low light or indoors. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakontil Posted April 28 Share #31 Â Posted April 28 I wouldnt say the summaron 28 reissue is a modern lens, it has the flawed and characters of the old lenses.. may be with modern manufacturing but intended with old renderings my go to lens when travelling, its too small to leave behind paired with my films or digital 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
derleicaman Posted April 29 Share #32  Posted April 29 Here's one I took at the Texas School Book Depository. Sixth floor window, known as Oswald's Window. M10 Monochrom. It was a very moving experience to be there, kind of creepy too. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 7 1 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420324-28mm-summaron-f56-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5794117'>More sharing options...
Dazzajl Posted April 29 Share #33  Posted April 29 35 minutes ago, derleicaman said: Here's one I took at the Texas School Book Depository. Sixth floor window, known as Oswald's Window. M10 Monochrom. It was a very moving experience to be there, kind of creepy too. Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! That's an amazing photo, on very many levels! The nicest tone value rendering I've seen from the M10M too, fab work. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulJohn Posted May 1 Author Share #34  Posted May 1 @ 5.6 on M10M  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420324-28mm-summaron-f56-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5794992'>More sharing options...
PaulJohn Posted May 1 Author Share #35  Posted May 1 @ 5.6 on M10M  Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 4 Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.l-camera-forum.com/topic/420324-28mm-summaron-f56-rendering/?do=findComment&comment=5794994'>More sharing options...
PaulJohn Posted May 1 Author Share #36  Posted May 1 On 4/25/2025 at 6:12 PM, Tessar. said: I know you went out and bought one, so for the record... I loved my Summaron when I had one. I found it head and shoulders above the ttartisan 28mm f/5.6. I was unable to find a copy of the ttartisan lens without a huge amount of veiling flare wide open, whenever there was even a hint of a light source near the centre of the frame. So I gave up on it, which is a shame because it can be good, just not against the light. What I found with the Summaron is that in bright conditions you need to meter for the centre and bring the corners up when processing the image (on a digital M). If you try to balance the image via the screen/histogram when shooting then the centre is easily over exposed. Common sense really. I have the newish VM Skopar f/2.8 too, and it's a very nice lens, very compact, but it does lack a bit of character if you know what I mean - a bit too perfect. I have not had a problem with exposure but maybe that's because I'm using centre weighted on M10. Matrix metering on M11 might be the issue but as you say you can compensate. Either with centre weighted metering or exposure compensation. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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