Photoworks Posted January 16 Share #21 Posted January 16 Advertisement (gone after registration) 3 minutes ago, BernardC said: like XLR connectors. never understood leica about this, the S5xII has an adapter for it. that let's talk about Flash, still the crappy nissin from 2018 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BernardC Posted January 16 Share #22 Posted January 16 9 minutes ago, Photoworks said: never understood leica about this, the S5xII has an adapter for it. That's the thing about using a dedicated video camera, you don't need an adapter, or an external recorder, or a cage, etc. The Lumix XLR adapter is nice, but it's still an extra box in an akward place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ne314satel Posted January 16 Share #23 Posted January 16 I no longer understand Leica. Instead of an innovative camera, they offer us an old Panasonic 5x $ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
overexposed Posted January 17 Share #24 Posted January 17 7 hours ago, Ne314satel said: I no longer understand Leica. Instead of an innovative camera, they offer us an old Panasonic 5x $ lets be honest here, leica hasnt been innovative or class leading for many many years, but they deliver good cameras which are well built, if one ignores the reoccurring freezing issues My M10s have become very reliable, only my M10R froze once in the early days, since then, no issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted January 17 Share #25 Posted January 17 3 minutes ago, overexposed said: lets be honest here, leica hasnt been innovative or class leading for many many years, but they deliver good cameras which are well built, if one ignores the reoccurring freezing issues My M10s have become very reliable, only my M10R froze once in the early days, since then, no issues. SL3 is class leading in the image quality produced. The LPC is unique and very helpful. No other manufacturer offers it. The ergonomics is class leading. 4 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
costa43 Posted January 17 Share #26 Posted January 17 Leica could have definitely done more with this line but they played it safe and stuck to the formula. I think it’s a disappointing release overall but they want to stay in this market and the real focus is elsewhere I’m sure. I love the sl2s and there is nowhere near enough here for my use case to upgrade. If the SL cameras didn’t depreciate so quickly in cost, it would have been a more interesting proposition but to lay out an additional 3.5k or so for minor upgrades is a non starter. On a positive note, I’m happy that the line is continuing and I have a feeling the sl2s will actually increase in resale value after this announcement! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
smooth Posted January 17 Share #27 Posted January 17 Advertisement (gone after registration) 11 hours ago, Lovegenrefilms said: I'm a hybrid shooter, make my money doing both video and stills. I was close to buying an SL3 but held off to wait for the more "video centric" S variant of the camera. I had this day on my calendar and my B&H account logged in and ready to. Then I read the specs..... Still no Full frame slow motion options... Not even 60P 4K. This is a big letdown in my opinion for a camera in 2025 which won't see a refresh until at least 3 years based on previous cycle. Can you imagine in 2026, 2027, your shooting on a $5000 camera that can't shoot full frame 4K 60. I might as well look into buying a X2d for my stills work and a Black magic Pyxis for my video work. Still cheaper than buying a SL3 and Sl3s. The Pyxis can't do 4k 60p full frame either, its the same sensor. I think we all hoped for a S1H II to be launched in that SL3-S. I guess panasonic is to blame for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted January 17 Share #28 Posted January 17 3 hours ago, SrMi said: SL3 is class leading in the image quality produced. The LPC is unique and very helpful. No other manufacturer offers it. The ergonomics is class leading. I agree with all the statements except the ergonomics. I had 2 significant complaints about the ergonomics: 1. Slow switching between profiles. This does not allow you to quickly change the focus type. 2. With the increased thickness of the camera, it does not have any protruding part at the back to support the thumb, because of this, the camera is uncomfortable to hold with one hand Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted January 17 Share #29 Posted January 17 13 hours ago, Lovegenrefilms said: Can you imagine in 2026, 2027, your shooting on a $5000 camera that can't shoot full frame 4K 60. Absolutely. I'm a 25fps/ 24fps guy. Avatar-1 kicked off the 60fps standard, and to this day, it looks too video-ish to me. Most filmmakers I know, including celebrities like Spielberg, Nolan, and Tarantino (who I don't know), agree that 4K60 isn't helping the storytelling, quite the opposite. YMMV. But this is surely not a flaw per se but a question of taste and preferences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hansvons Posted January 17 Share #30 Posted January 17 13 hours ago, Lovegenrefilms said: I might as well look into buying a X2d for my stills work and a Black magic Pyxis for my video work. Still cheaper than buying a SL3 and Sl3s. Good idea, seriously. If you have to shoot proper video, get a proper video camera. There are tons of advantages to that. Hybrid DSLRs are meant to take the job for occasional little video gigs. They are by no means proper filmmaking tools. I like the SL2-S/SL3-S for two reasons: 1. Leica's L-Log fits nicely into an HDR Rec2020 or ACES workflow using Rec2020 IDTs. 2. Leica managed to provide best-in-class colour to my eyes. Even BM has difficulty out-classing Leica with their latest colour technology (they don't). Only top-tier digital cinema cameras provide noticeably better colour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
la1402 Posted January 17 Share #31 Posted January 17 1 hour ago, Smogg said: I agree with all the statements except the ergonomics. I had 2 significant complaints about the ergonomics: 1. Slow switching between profiles. This does not allow you to quickly change the focus type. 2. With the increased thickness of the camera, it does not have any protruding part at the back to support the thumb, because of this, the camera is uncomfortable to hold with one hand Yes fully agree on the second point. While the UI overall is gorgous, the SL3 is the most uncomfortable camera to hold I ever owned. The SL2, while heavier, felt better. It may be the thicker body. But on all SL cameras the lack of an ergnomically formed grip makes a clear comfort difference to other brands where form follows function. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 17 Share #32 Posted January 17 FWIW I have used a hand strap on the SL series since the first SL601. It makes fewer demands on the hand and fingers than either the bare body or a body with thumb grip. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted January 17 Share #33 Posted January 17 51 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: FWIW I have used a hand strap on the SL series since the first SL601. It makes fewer demands on the hand and fingers than either the bare body or a body with thumb grip. I try to avoid extra bells and whistles as much as possible when using my cameras. They usually ruin the design, take up more space in the bag. And the thing you described also doesn't go well with a neck strap. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Photoworks Posted January 17 Share #34 Posted January 17 Just keep in mind that it is only the first month of 100-year celebrations. This year we will have some cool products! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LocalHero1953 Posted January 17 Share #35 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Smogg said: I try to avoid extra bells and whistles as much as possible when using my cameras. They usually ruin the design, take up more space in the bag. And the thing you described also doesn't go well with a neck strap. That's certainly true, though I only use hand straps and wrist straps with my cameras. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted January 17 Share #36 Posted January 17 1 minute ago, Photoworks said: Just keep in mind that it is only the first month of 100-year celebrations. This year we will have some cool products! Are there any new announcements expected this year? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted January 17 Share #37 Posted January 17 5 minutes ago, LocalHero1953 said: That's certainly true, though I only use hand straps and wrist straps with my cameras. I prefer this thing. It allows you to almost instantly detach the camera from the neck strap if necessary and is compatible with Arca-Swiss. https://www.ulanzi.com/products/falcam-f38-quick-release-buckle-kit-for-shoulder-strap-3142?_pos=2&_sid=d569a5d69&_ss=r&variant=43737352601821 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planetwide Posted January 17 Share #38 Posted January 17 I hope that this is not an indication of the S1H V2... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoolyproductions Posted January 17 Share #39 Posted January 17 (edited) 1 hour ago, la1402 said: Yes fully agree on the second point. While the UI overall is gorgous, the SL3 is the most uncomfortable camera to hold I ever owned. The SL2, while heavier, felt better. It may be the thicker body. But on all SL cameras the lack of an ergnomically formed grip makes a clear comfort difference to other brands where form follows function. Having had an SL3 for a few months now: at first the grip indeed felt very different and I was not sure I liked it. My SL2-S felt like a natural extension of my body at that time. Now I have used the SL3 exclusively and return to the SL2-S: the grip feels very different and I don't like it as much Which is not to say that the SL3 grip is not a backwards step for some of you (our hands are all different), but at least in my case I prefer it now. I'm a bit the same with the much maligned power button, which I strongly prefer for the ability to put the camera in stand by mode whenever I need to and I do not stuggle at all to tell if I am turning the camera off or putting it in stand by (and it looks cool 🤣) Edited January 17 by hoolyproductions 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff C. Bassett Posted January 17 Share #40 Posted January 17 2 hours ago, Planetwide said: I hope that this is not an indication of the S1H V2... Same here man. I am hoping to pick up the S1H V2 when it comes out in the hope it will shoot open gate with a decent readout, if it's the same damn sensor then I'm never buying it, and will probably save up for a used GFX 100 II. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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