Q3/Q3 43: Firmware update v.3.0.0 improves black out times and much more

[mrlouie]

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9 hours ago, aficionados said:

I use 2 fps continuous shooting mode to shoot single picture. Just press the shutter once and one picture is taken even with the 2-fps.

And you don't have blackout at all.

I know it's not a solution to the blackout of single shot, but you have it.

Just tried that, nice work around !! 

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[mrlouie]

8 hours ago, Dr. G said:

I still can't figure out what causes this.  It seems like it happens more in AFc.

It happens in AF-C & iAF .. haven’t had any issues in AFS  with my Q3 & now Q3 43 

[LocalHero1953]

4 hours ago, tiendamquang said:

Hello everyone,

After upgrading my Leica Q3 43 camera to the 3.0.0 firmware, I encountered an issue where the camera won’t turn off, requiring me to remove the battery, and the histogram disappeared. Has anyone experienced the same problem?

Works OK for me.

[Miltz]

I was hoping for AFc autofocus performance. Trying to take pictures of anything moving with the Q3 has been pretty awful. I know it’s not a sports camera but it’s not even decent. I will test out iAF and see if that means AFc is improved or if it means the camera can switch between AfS and afc faster.

[SLamb]

It looks like the EVF flickering when set to 120Hz refresh rate and using smaller apertures is still there.  I wonder why there is a 120Hz refresh rate, unless it is for use with apertures under f/4.  

[LocalHero1953]

1 hour ago, Miltz said:

I was hoping for AFc autofocus performance. Trying to take pictures of anything moving with the Q3 has been pretty awful. I know it’s not a sports camera but it’s not even decent. I will test out iAF and see if that means AFc is improved or if it means the camera can switch between AfS and afc faster.

I used the Q3 43 for an intense and active play rehearsal on Wednesday before the update, and found it OK. I wouldn't choose a Q for sport anyway, but lack of focus eliminated only 1-5% of the images. Some of the others I accepted (a smallish minority) were not tack sharp. With humans my primary issue is expression and composition - mainly my fault when its wrong.

I switch on the fly between iAF + Face Recognition (constrained by the crop frame) and iAF + AF-L + Tracking (which uses 'Field').

I'm generally fairly close to my subjects/actors 2-5m - not sure if that makes a difference. At 4m+ Face Recognition is not so good, though Tracking will do better if there's enough contrast.

I would be very pleased to see it improved, but I certainly don't find it as bad as your experience.

I haven't tried it it since the update - I will later today, but only with static musicians.

Edited December 13, 2024 by LocalHero1953

[Homo Faber]

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vor 4 Minuten schrieb LocalHero1953:

I used the Q3 43 for an intense and active play rehearsal on Wednesday before the update, and found it OK. I wouldn't choose a Q for sport anyway, but lack of focus eliminated only 1-5% of the images. Some of the others I accepted (a smallish minority) were not tack sharp. With humans my primary issue is expression and composition - mainly my fault when its wrong.

I switch on the fly between iAF + Face Recognition (constrained by the crop frame) and iAF + AF-L + Tracking (which uses 'Field').

I'm generally fairly close to my subjects/actors 2-5m - not sure if that makes a difference. At 4m+ Face Recognition is not so good, though Tracking will do better if there's enough contrast.

I would be very pleased to see it improved, but I certainly don't find it as bad as your experience.

I haven't tried it it since the update - I will later today, but only with static musicians.

Looking forward to your findings.

[classba]

I wouldn't use my Q3/43 for any type of action shooting because the AF is just not good enough IMO.

I'm a long term Nikon shooter and only bought the Q3/43 for casual daily walk about carry.  For more serious and action shoots, I'll use my Nikon Z9 or Z6/3.

[Viv]

If only I had a Q3, I could install this ...

[jjroroek]

23 hours ago, Smogg said:

I can sometimes stand in one place for up to half an hour waiting for a person in the right clothes and/or a car of the right color. To save battery, I turn off the camera

it doesnt shut off when the camera  turns to energy saving mode

[Olaf_ZG]

I just read the FW thread in the m11 forum (don’t ask why), and saw that the Q3 works much better with FOTOS, but you need to have the latest version for that as well…

[Dr. G]

Can someone correct me if i'm wrong -  I thought before the firmware update I could be in AFc and still see the depth of field change in the EVF when focusing on a subject by half pressing the shutter button and turning the aperture ring.  Or was it only in AFs as it is now?

[aficionados]

4 hours ago, Dr. G said:

Can someone correct me if i'm wrong -  I thought before the firmware update I could be in AFc and still see the depth of field change in the EVF when focusing on a subject by half pressing the shutter button and turning the aperture ring.  Or was it only in AFs as it is now?

iAF is where you see flickering through EVF.

 

[Dr. G]

7 hours ago, aficionados said:

iAF is where you see flickering through EVF.

 

I wasn’t talking about flickering.  If you half press and hold the shutter in AFs and then turn the aperture ring, you can see exactly what your final image will look like in terms of depth of field.  If you aren’t half pressing the shutter then moving the aperture ring won’t show any difference in the depth of field in the EVF.

I thought before the firmware update it was the same in AFc, but I don’t remember. The way it is after the firmware update is that in AFc there is no change in the depth of field when half pressing the shutter and turning the aperture ring.

[win-win]

On 12/13/2024 at 4:59 AM, mrlouie said:

It happens in AF-C & iAF .. haven’t had any issues in AFS  with my Q3 & now Q3 43 

It’s definitely a bug in firmware 

[aficionados]

8 hours ago, Dr. G said:

I wasn’t talking about flickering.  If you half press and hold the shutter in AFs and then turn the aperture ring, you can see exactly what your final image will look like in terms of depth of field.  If you aren’t half pressing the shutter then moving the aperture ring won’t show any difference in the depth of field in the EVF.

I thought before the firmware update it was the same in AFc, but I don’t remember. The way it is after the firmware update is that in AFc there is no change in the depth of field when half pressing the shutter and turning the aperture ring.

You are right. In both AFs and AFc depth of field changes in EVF when half pressing the shutter. I’m still on firmware 2.0.5

you are saying with the new firmware in AFc the depth of field doesn’t change ?

what a joke. This is a big bug then.

I’m not updating then 

[SrMi]

1 hour ago, aficionados said:

You are right. In both AFs and AFc depth of field changes in EVF when half pressing the shutter. I’m still on firmware 2.0.5

In all Q cameras, half-press in AF-S closes the aperture (after acquiring focus), and the correct DOF is visible. In AF-C, the aperture stays wide open while focusing (shutter half-press), and the correct DOF is not visible. You can look at the aperture closing or staying wide open. Q cameras need to have aperture wide open while focusing.

1 hour ago, aficionados said:

you are saying with the new firmware in AFc the depth of field doesn’t change ?

what a joke. This is a big bug then.

I’m not updating then 

It is the same in Q2; I assume it was the same in Q3 before the update. Can you check on your Q3 whether the aperture closes at f/16 when half-pressing the shutter in AF-C?

[aficionados]

15 minutes ago, SrMi said:

In all Q cameras, half-press in AF-S closes the aperture (after acquiring focus), and the correct DOF is visible. In AF-C, the aperture stays wide open while focusing (shutter half-press), and the correct DOF is not visible. You can look at the aperture closing or staying wide open. Q cameras need to have aperture wide open while focusing.

It is the same in Q2; I assume it was the same in Q3 before the update. Can you check on your Q3 whether the aperture closes at f/16 when half-pressing the shutter in AF-C?

You are also right. Aperture doesn't close on AFc. Now I am confused. From EVF, I definitely see the DOF changes with AFc. It's very obvious with bigger aperture because I can easily see the things coming in and out of focus. How does the camera do that without closing the aperture?

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[SrMi]

25 minutes ago, aficionados said:

You are also right. Aperture doesn't close on AFc. Now I am confused. From EVF, I definitely see the DOF changes with AFc. It's very obvious with bigger aperture because I can easily see the things coming in and out of focus. How does the camera do that without closing the aperture?

I guess the EVF resolution is reduced while focusing, and things look more focused because of the lower resolution.

[aficionados]

2 hours ago, SrMi said:

I guess the EVF resolution is reduced while focusing, and things look more focused because of the lower resolution.

ok I just updated the firmware to 3.0.0, and tried AFc, not a difference.

the depth of field in AFc does look less clear comparing to AFs. But there is no difference between 2.0.5 and 3.0.0 firmware