estone888 Posted December 30, 2007 Share #1 Posted December 30, 2007 Advertisement (gone after registration) Other than the branding and price, are there any? How important are they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Advertisement Posted December 30, 2007 Posted December 30, 2007 Hi estone888, Take a look here Differences, if any, betwee Leica and Panasonic Equivalent Digital Cameras. I'm sure you'll find what you were looking for!
jaapv Posted December 30, 2007 Share #2 Posted December 30, 2007 Slight Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuny Posted December 30, 2007 Share #3 Posted December 30, 2007 Also, among the slight differences are better PC/Mac software accompanying the Leicas, larger capacity SD card, longer warrantee. On these pages people claim slight differences in default settings for in-camera software. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
carstenw Posted December 30, 2007 Share #4 Posted December 30, 2007 The firmwares are meant to be different, with the Leica versions apparently having slightly better characteristics. One would certainly hope so, given the price differential. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riley Posted January 1, 2008 Share #5 Posted January 1, 2008 Other than the branding and price, are there any? How important are they? FWIW there are no fewer than 27 differences between Panasonic LC1 and Leica Digilux 2 the differences are almost inconsequential Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
elansprint72 Posted January 1, 2008 Share #6 Posted January 1, 2008 Apart from any internal differences the V-Lux 1 and FZ-50 have a different shaped body. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
prk60091 Posted January 2, 2008 Share #7 Posted January 2, 2008 Advertisement (gone after registration) Other than the branding and price, are there any? How important are they? don't forget warranty issues.... d2's sensors are being replaced outside of warranty- i do not think that is so with the panasonic version also leica gives a 2year warranty- i believe panasonic has a 1 year Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
earleygallery Posted January 2, 2008 Share #8 Posted January 2, 2008 As has been said, differences are partly cosmetic, partly to do with in camera processing settings, and partly the 'scope of delivery' i.e. what you get with the camera and the warranty. There is also another factor which may or may not matter to you, the Leica versions tend to be worth a lot more s/h. Its worth considering the above and the price differential of the particular camera you want, then choosing which to go for. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 2, 2008 Share #9 Posted January 2, 2008 Well......................in the case of the Digilux 3 and Panasonic L1 the bodies are slightly different and the control knobs and the levers are different. The colors are different. The photo processing in RAW and JPEG are different. The D3 has a six month Passport warranty and three year limited warranty. The D3 comes with a 1 gig SD card. with the image difference between the two I guess it boils down to personal preferences. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted January 2, 2008 Share #10 Posted January 2, 2008 You may be aware that Panasonic has published 4 "Development Stories" on the L1 and Leica-D lens on their main website: <http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/lumix/dslr/index.html> This may assist you understanding the "published" view of the Panasonic/Leica collaboration. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted January 4, 2008 Share #11 Posted January 4, 2008 The photo processing in RAW and JPEG are different. Where is this established? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dhsimmonds Posted January 4, 2008 Share #12 Posted January 4, 2008 The specification differences are not worth the price difference in my view. There may be a difference in resale values if this is important to you but certainly as far as the D2 and LC1 are concerned it is a very small difference and nothing like the price difference when new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 4, 2008 Share #13 Posted January 4, 2008 Where is this established? Quite easy really. You take several thousand photos with both cameras at the same settings and open them side by side in Photoshop from RAW files and compare them. I have. I own both bodies and both lenses. The colors are different as well as the shadow and highlight details. RAW as well as JPEG are developed to the programmers settings and not some magical "all is the same" format. The only benefit to RAW files is the post processing. You are able to do more than with JPEG and the detail is greater. It is what the sensor saw. The sensor sees what the programmer tells it it saw. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dugby Posted January 4, 2008 Share #14 Posted January 4, 2008 Quite easy really. You take several thousand photos with both cameras at the same settings and open them side by side in Photoshop from RAW files and compare them. I have. I own both bodies and both lenses. The colors are different as well as the shadow and highlight details. RAW as well as JPEG are developed to the programmers settings and not some magical "all is the same" format. The only benefit to RAW files is the post processing. You are able to do more than with JPEG and the detail is greater. It is what the sensor saw. The sensor sees what the programmer tells it it saw. James, I recall you posted a series of samples.....showing 64 million shades of yellow roses taken at 1m in artificial light. Did you get around to posting some RAW images of people shots, outdoor scenes, etc...? As the roses didn't do justice to people's claim on the differences. (This is not intended to attack you personally, and I appologise in advanced if you feel that). However as you are one of very few who have both the D3 and L1 can provide the physical evidence.....and the old addage "a picture says a thousand words" very much applies here. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 7, 2008 Share #15 Posted January 7, 2008 James, I recall you posted a series of samples.....showing 64 million shades of yellow roses taken at 1m in artificial light. Did you get around to posting some RAW images of people shots, outdoor scenes, etc...? As the roses didn't do justice to people's claim on the differences. (This is not intended to attack you personally, and I appologise in advanced if you feel that). However as you are one of very few who have both the D3 and L1 can provide the physical evidence.....and the old addage "a picture says a thousand words" very much applies here. Soryy for the slow reply.................I have been O O P for a few days. I see no attack and am not offended. Not to worry. If someone can show me where to post RAW files I'd be happy to load a few examples and show what I mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nostatic Posted January 7, 2008 Share #16 Posted January 7, 2008 Different as in better, or just different? I'm ready to pull the trigger on the D-Lux3 or the LX-2, and the red dot alone isn't really enough to justify what is now a $240 difference between the two (from reputable dealers in the US). If the firmware processing in the Leica is in fact superior, *that* is something I'll pay for (the software and case are similarly irrelevant to me). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 7, 2008 Share #17 Posted January 7, 2008 Different as in better, or just different? I'm ready to pull the trigger on the D-Lux3 or the LX-2, and the red dot alone isn't really enough to justify what is now a $240 difference between the two (from reputable dealers in the US). If the firmware processing in the Leica is in fact superior, *that* is something I'll pay for (the software and case are similarly irrelevant to me). Better or superior would be wrong to say. Different it is. I've always maintained it is a user preference as to which one you like.. Photos can be manipulated from both cameras to equal each other but that is a bunch of extra work to produce something different from what was captured..............if you get my meaning. I shoot both Olympus and Leica and for my personal preference it is the Leica. If I shoot for bright colors and a lot of contrast I use Olympus. I just do not prefer to tweak a bunch of settings on one camera to equal output on another. That is why I have more than one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob_x2004 Posted January 7, 2008 Share #18 Posted January 7, 2008 Are you now saying the Dlux3 and Lx2 are different? I can understand an Olympus being different. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted January 8, 2008 Share #19 Posted January 8, 2008 Are you now saying the Dlux3 and Lx2 are different? I can understand an Olympus being different. I don't kniow anything about the point and shoots. I was referring to the D3 and L1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delfi_r Posted January 10, 2008 Share #20 Posted January 10, 2008 RAW files are different. Around 12 Mbytes for the L1 Raw files and near 15 Mbytes for the Digilux3 Raw files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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