Filters for Q3 43

[Dr. G]

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3 minutes ago, Stuart Richardson said:

Fair enough. It seems though that the trade offs that are involved would have resulted in a larger more obtrusive hood in all situations, rather than one that has to be removed in a less common situation (using filters and the hood while doing macros). I agree it would be much nicer if this were not the case. Personally it would not bother me in the slightest, but I do not use UV filters. If I did, I can see how it would be annoying. There are, however, options, both from Leica (the 200 dollar hood) or not (presumably any number of aftermarket hoods of many different price levels). I don't think this is Leica being "cheap" though, I think it is Leica making design and aesthetic decisions that have an impact on function. What is better: a fully functional hood that is bulkier, or a more streamlined hood that works fine except in one less common use case? I guess they decided the latter.

I do not use UV filters either, I've had every Q28 and the 21/35/50/75 APO SL lenses.  I only use the hoods.   All of them protected the front element of the lens in the rain.  The one the Q3 43, as mentioned above, does not keep the front element completely free from rain drops, which means I'd rather use a clear/UV filter in that situation than go without it.   The round hood with a filter is a solution, but you'll end up wiping your filter off more often in bad weather because it's far more open than the square hood.  Neither is a great solution in that particular scenario.   

[jgeenen]

vor 3 Minuten schrieb Dr. G:

I do not use UV filters either, I've had every Q28 and the 21/35/50/75 APO SL lenses.  I only use the hoods.   All of them protected the front element of the lens in the rain.  The one the Q3 43, as mentioned above, does not keep the front element completely free from rain drops, which means I'd rather use a clear/UV filter in that situation than go without it.   The round hood with a filter is a solution, but you'll end up wiping your filter off more often in bad weather because it's far more open than the square hood.  Neither is a great solution in that particular scenario.   

Have you tried the original Q28 hood? It does not have the baffles that are blocking the front element movement and should not be too tight to create vignetting. 

[Leicalookalike]

vor 33 Minuten schrieb jgeenen:

Have you tried the original Q28 hood? It does not have the baffles that are blocking the front element movement and should not be too tight to create vignetting. 

When I bought my Leica Q3 43mm the Leica store salesman told me it does vignetting quite a bit. So maybe somebody has the change to check it out in person…

[davidnvh]

51 minutes ago, jgeenen said:

Have you tried the original Q28 hood? It does not have the baffles that are blocking the front element movement and should not be too tight to create vignetting. 

I bought a Haoge square hood for the Q28 to try, but it doesn’t fit the thread of the Q43. I guess the only solution now is to use a round hood.

[algrove]

Anyone received a thin filter yet to see if it works in macro mode?

[cltlz3n]

1 hour ago, Leicalookalike said:

When I bought my Leica Q3 43mm the Leica store salesman told me it does vignetting quite a bit. So maybe somebody has the change to check it out in person…

When the q3 hood is screwed in fully it's not horizontal on the lens, so despite possible vignetting, it looks absurd because it's like diagonal. It's shown in this video here: 

 

[Ethan B]

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I just got a B+W T-Pro ultra-thin 007 clear filter and macro definitely doesn't work.

[69xchange]

The UN eins super protect 49mm filter may work. But very hard to get a hold of these filters.

[aficionados]

22 hours ago, egrossman said:

The reason that macro mode is impossible with even a thin filter is the shortened length of the included hood. Macro mode pushes the front of the lens forward, further restricting the availble space inside of the hood for the filter. The optional Leica ventilated hood does allow macro mode because the inside of the hood is wide enough to let the entire filter assembly to pass through it. Macro mode works just fine. 

This image shows the lens in macro mode with the filter pushed forward through the hood without issue.

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I’m curious though if the ventilated round hood from original Q3-28 fits the Q3-43, why doesn’t the included square hood doesn’t fit the same way ?

Oh never mind, saw the video above it fits however not straight but crooked. Oh man it’s typical Leica thing. Let’s wait for an updated hood 😂

Edited September 30, 2024 by aficionados

[haelio]

1 hour ago, 69xchange said:

The UN eins super protect 49mm filter may work. But very hard to get a hold of these filters.

I’ve contacted the manufacturer directly and they’ve popped 2 of them in the post for me. Not sure how long it will take to get to me but I will report back when I can try them. 

[Likaleica]

5 hours ago, aficionados said:

Let’s wait for an updated hood 😂

This seems a little like the M8 infrared filter debacle to me.  Once they realized their mistake, Leica provided filters for all M8 owners without charge.  If they do update the hood, it would be nice if Leica would make these available to current Q3 43 owners (especially those who bought theirs prior to the hood issue becoming a known issue) at a substantially reduced price (i.e. at cost) or for free.  Because some of us do like to protect their front elements and do like to use filters from time to time.

[aficionados]

15 minutes ago, Likaleica said:

This seems a little like the M8 infrared filter debacle to me.  Once they realized their mistake, Leica provided filters for all M8 owners without charge.  If they do update the hood, it would be nice if Leica would make these available to current Q3 43 owners (especially those who bought theirs prior to the hood issue becoming a known issue) at a substantially reduced price (i.e. at cost) or for free.  Because some of us do like to protect their front elements and do like to use filters from time to time.

I am afraid they treated this hood issue as a feature, rather than a mistake. That means they won't correct it.

They proudly mentioned it in the manual: Don't use the filter with the hood, don't use the Q3 hood on Q3-43.

They sound very assertive and proud about it.

If they thought it was a mistake, they wouldn't write it down in manual.

Edited September 30, 2024 by aficionados

[bherman01545]

On 9/26/2024 at 5:32 PM, haelio said:

Reports state that due to the hood being shallow (probably to keep overall dimensions the same as the Q3 28), many filters don’t fit with the hood attached. Ultra slim ones like the B+W Nano do fit under the hood but hit the hood partway though moving to macro mode as this results in the inner barrel of the lens moving forward. 
 

I now it’s still early days, but has anyone found a solution that works with the hood attached _and_ with me to mode?

Looking at this thread: 

suggests a solution (UN Eins filters) but trying to source the item is proving rather difficult, at least outside of Japan or China. 

Three options...

1.) Do not use a filter

2.) Buy the OEM hood for the Q3 28mm, which allows clearance

3.) Buy the Leica round, ventilated hood for $230.00 which works as well

-Brad

[egrossman]

1 hour ago, Likaleica said:

This seems a little like the M8 infrared filter debacle to me.  Once they realized their mistake, Leica provided filters for all M8 owners without charge.  If they do update the hood, it would be nice if Leica would make these available to current Q3 43 owners (especially those who bought theirs prior to the hood issue becoming a known issue) at a substantially reduced price (i.e. at cost) or for free.  Because some of us do like to protect their front elements and do like to use filters from time to time.

It wouldn't be "nice" of Leica. It's the right thing to do. While they are at it, they can send me a battery charger; last time I checked, US buyers aren't subject to EU regulation.

Erik

[taylorwelden]

📸 I've been testing this filter/hood thing for a few days now. Here's all the intel below! 📸
The eins Japan 1.2mm thick UV filter (thinnest filter in the market) is still too thick for the Q3 43 to activate macro mode while using the 43’s square hood. 
Currently, your only option to use the 43 square hood and a filter are with using an ultra slim filter (anything 3mm or thinner is confirmed, but possibly slightly thicker)… and then slightly unscrew the hood (1 full rotation with the 1.2mm filter, likely full hood removal with anything thicker than 1.2mm) when you want to engage macro mode. 
Personally I’m opting for this minor but annoying extra step of 1 full hood rotation when I want macro mode. Why? Via Lightroom data, it appears I used macro for approximately 1% of all my photos on my old Q2 and Q3 28. So it’s not something I use that often. Secondly and most importantly, it’s for just a tiny bit of extra protection and insurance… as this is my dedicated travel camera that goes along with me to some pretty gnarly environments. 
Certainly not ideal. But hey, those are the cards we’re dealt with. Your style of photography and type of places you travel to might not warrant the need for a filter at all. 
I would imagine a third party square hood would have to appear on the market to fix this issues. Or, based on my measurements, you could permanently modify your existing Leica 43 hood if you really want to get wild. 
EDIT: Via the rumor mill, it appears that Leica may be releasing some ultra ultra thin filters sometime in the near future.

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[jaapv]

18 hours ago, Leicalookalike said:

When I bought my Leica Q3 43mm the Leica store salesman told me it does vignetting quite a bit. So maybe somebody has the change to check it out in person…

It is very hard to see why a hood that does not vignette on 28 mm would do so on 43 mm. 

[jonoslack]

Filters and Macro Mode on the Q3 43

hi there. I have had a discussion about this, and in macro mode the distance available is 0.7mm so no chance there. 
However, to have made a lens hood with room for a filter would have made it noticeably larger, and as many people do not use filters then it didn’t seem to be a good trade-off (I quite agree, but then I don’t use filters!). 

So, not an oversight at all. 

the simple work around is to take off the lens hood when shooting in macro mode. 
 

All the best

[haelio]

44 minutes ago, jonoslack said:

Filters and Macro Mode on the Q3 43

hi there. I have had a discussion about this, and in macro mode the distance available is 0.7mm so no chance there. 
However, to have made a lens hood with room for a filter would have made it noticeably larger.

With some changes to the baffle it may not have been necessary to make it larger. This won't be confirmed of course until someone does some DIY mods.

Even if you assume that the hood needed to be larger, then we're talking in the order of around 3mm. I would argue that that isn't noticeably larger, but that is largely a subjective matter.

I think they wanted to tick the marketing box that the lens is the same size as the 28mm. In order to do this they had to make some unfortunate compromises with the included hood. They could have included an additional vented hood for those of us who use filters (like they include the thread protector for those that don't like hoods) but they chose not to.

I agree, it's certainly not an oversight, just a conscious decision of form over function with a little bit of penny pinching thrown in

[Barralad]

1 hour ago, jonoslack said:

Filters and Macro Mode on the Q3 43

hi there. I have had a discussion about this, and in macro mode the distance available is 0.7mm so no chance there. 
However, to have made a lens hood with room for a filter would have made it noticeably larger, and as many people do not use filters then it didn’t seem to be a good trade-off (I quite agree, but then I don’t use filters!). 

So, not an oversight at all. 

the simple work around is to take off the lens hood when shooting in macro mode. 
 

All the best

Would it really be ‘noticeably larger’? Side-by-side, one would be longer than the other, but who would bother to do that? I don’t have the new 43 but reading through these comments it seems like the issue wouldn’t have arisen if the lens hood had been 3-4 mm longer. If that’s correct, then I’m at a loss as to why they decided to go the way they did. How many potential buyers would they have lost because the hood was ever-so-slightly longer? Would anyone have thought, “The new Q3 43 looks perfect for me, but I’m not going to buy it with a lens hood that long”? As it is, there’s lots of grumbling. If they’d made it 3-4 mm longer….not an issue at all. Having to disassemble the camera in order to make use of the camera’s functionality smacks of bad design (and poor thinking) in my opinion.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Barralad
Changed ‘m’ to ‘mm’

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[Simone_DF]

Can you still mount a filter with the original hood if macro mode is not engaged?