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1 hour ago, Simone_DF said:

Can you still mount a filter with the original hood if macro mode is not engaged?

If the filter is narrow enough, then yes. I have had luck with Hoya HD and B+W Nano filters. It's really tight though, and feels like the hood is scraping against the filter for the last 10-15 degrees of rotation of the hood. There has been no visible damage though.

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3 hours ago, jonoslack said:

Filters and Macro Mode on the Q3 43

hi there. I have had a discussion about this, and in macro mode the distance available is 0.7mm so no chance there. 
However, to have made a lens hood with room for a filter would have made it noticeably larger, and as many people do not use filters then it didn’t seem to be a good trade-off (I quite agree, but then I don’t use filters!). 

So, not an oversight at all. 


the simple work around is to take off the lens hood when shooting in macro mode. 
 

All the best

It’s not an oversight otherwise they wouldn’t have shamelessly mentioned this issue in the user manual .

It’s an arrogance.

I don’t use filter either, and actually I don’t even use macro. So I don’t care, but it’s an arrogance, my way or no way type of arrogance.

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9 hours ago, taylorwelden said:

📸 I've been testing this filter/hood thing for a few days now. Here's all the intel below! 📸
The eins Japan 1.2mm thick UV filter (thinnest filter in the market) is still too thick for the Q3 43 to activate macro mode while using the 43’s square hood. 
Currently, your only option to use the 43 square hood and a filter are with using an ultra slim filter (anything 3mm or thinner is confirmed, but possibly slightly thicker)… and then slightly unscrew the hood (1 full rotation with the 1.2mm filter, likely full hood removal with anything thicker than 1.2mm) when you want to engage macro mode. 
Personally I’m opting for this minor but annoying extra step of 1 full hood rotation when I want macro mode. Why? Via Lightroom data, it appears I used macro for approximately 1% of all my photos on my old Q2 and Q3 28. So it’s not something I use that often. Secondly and most importantly, it’s for just a tiny bit of extra protection and insurance… as this is my dedicated travel camera that goes along with me to some pretty gnarly environments. 
Certainly not ideal. But hey, those are the cards we’re dealt with. Your style of photography and type of places you travel to might not warrant the need for a filter at all. 
I would imagine a third party square hood would have to appear on the market to fix this issues. Or, based on my measurements, you could permanently modify your existing Leica 43 hood if you really want to get wild. 
EDIT: Via the rumor mill, it appears that Leica may be releasing some ultra ultra thin filters sometime in the near future.

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Ultra thin filter from Leica ? I don’t think so.

as per Jono the space between the lens and hood is about 0.7mm when macro is engaged.

They have to make the filter frame about 0.5mm, I don’t think Leica would do that

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10 hours ago, taylorwelden said:

📸 I've been testing this filter/hood thing for a few days now. Here's all the intel below! 📸
The eins Japan 1.2mm thick UV filter (thinnest filter in the market) is still too thick for the Q3 43 to activate macro mode while using the 43’s square hood. 
Currently, your only option to use the 43 square hood and a filter are with using an ultra slim filter (anything 3mm or thinner is confirmed, but possibly slightly thicker)… and then slightly unscrew the hood (1 full rotation with the 1.2mm filter, likely full hood removal with anything thicker than 1.2mm) when you want to engage macro mode. 
Personally I’m opting for this minor but annoying extra step of 1 full hood rotation when I want macro mode. Why? Via Lightroom data, it appears I used macro for approximately 1% of all my photos on my old Q2 and Q3 28. So it’s not something I use that often. Secondly and most importantly, it’s for just a tiny bit of extra protection and insurance… as this is my dedicated travel camera that goes along with me to some pretty gnarly environments. 
Certainly not ideal. But hey, those are the cards we’re dealt with. Your style of photography and type of places you travel to might not warrant the need for a filter at all. 
I would imagine a third party square hood would have to appear on the market to fix this issues. Or, based on my measurements, you could permanently modify your existing Leica 43 hood if you really want to get wild. 
EDIT: Via the rumor mill, it appears that Leica may be releasing some ultra ultra thin filters sometime in the near future.

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I hear you about using macro mode about 1% of the time on the standard Q, but on the Q3 43 I've noticed that "Macro" is more of a close focus distance setting than an actual macro.  You may be in that mode more on the Q3 43 than the standard Q.  There are some shots I was trying to take in standard mode that I thought would have been fine as far as my distance was concerned, but I found I needed to engage macro mode just to get into the zone I needed.

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2 hours ago, Dr. G said:

I hear you about using macro mode about 1% of the time on the standard Q, but on the Q3 43 I've noticed that "Macro" is more of a close focus distance setting than an actual macro.  You may be in that mode more on the Q3 43 than the standard Q.  There are some shots I was trying to take in standard mode that I thought would have been fine as far as my distance was concerned, but I found I needed to engage macro mode just to get into the zone I needed.

The 28 and 43 have the same magnification, so they are both equally macro/close-up modes.

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19 minutes ago, SrMi said:

The 28 and 43 have the same magnification, so they are both equally macro/close-up modes.

They have the same magnification but I think the start point and end point of the macro zone of the Q3 may be physically closer than that of the Q3 43.  I don't have my Q3 anymore.  If anyone has both cameras, can they check this?

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22 minutes ago, Dr. G said:

They have the same magnification but I think the start point and end point of the macro zone of the Q3 may be physically closer than that of the Q3 43.  I don't have my Q3 anymore.  If anyone has both cameras, can they check this?

The minimum focus distance is different, of course.

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I tried the B+W XS-Pro Nano 007 which was on my old Q, and it proved a little too thick - the hood would not quite rotate all the way to the stop, leaving the hood a couple of degrees out, and the threads under strain.

I was going to order the newer B+W Master Nano 007 (recommended by others) until I noticed that its specified projection is 3.4mm - exactly the same as the XS-Pro.

Hence I ordered the c.20% more costly B+W T-Pro Nano 007, which is specified at 2.9mm projection. I can confirm that the hood sits fractionally proud of the filter, and that the hood rotates easily to the stop.

I hope this helps others. 

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1 hour ago, Stevenson said:

Hence I ordered the c.20% more costly B+W T-Pro Nano 007, which is specified at 2.9mm projection. I can confirm that the hood sits fractionally proud of the filter, and that the hood rotates easily to the stop.

I hope this helps others. 

Thank you for letting us know!

Question, please - how is macro-mode with B+W T-Pro Nano 007 attached? 

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1 hour ago, Stevenson said:

I tried the B+W XS-Pro Nano 007 which was on my old Q, and it proved a little too thick - the hood would not quite rotate all the way to the stop, leaving the hood a couple of degrees out, and the threads under strain.

I was going to order the newer B+W Master Nano 007 (recommended by others) until I noticed that its specified projection is 3.4mm - exactly the same as the XS-Pro.

Hence I ordered the c.20% more costly B+W T-Pro Nano 007, which is specified at 2.9mm projection. I can confirm that the hood sits fractionally proud of the filter, and that the hood rotates easily to the stop.

I hope this helps others. 

I’ve just fitted the T-Pro Nano to my Q43, it’s a tight fit but the hood does reach the hard stop. 

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6 minutes ago, mhasman said:

Thank you for letting us know!

Question, please - how is macro-mode with B+W T-Pro Nano 007 attached? 

Forget about Macro, there isn't a filter in today's market can fit the Q3/43 with the hood and Macro engaged.

I have the B+W T-Pro line I used for my Noctilux 50/1.2 lens, I tried it on Q3/43, it works, but of course no Macro.

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8 hours ago, jonoslack said:

Filters and Macro Mode on the Q3 43

hi there. I have had a discussion about this, and in macro mode the distance available is 0.7mm so no chance there. 
However, to have made a lens hood with room for a filter would have made it noticeably larger, and as many people do not use filters then it didn’t seem to be a good trade-off (I quite agree, but then I don’t use filters!). 

So, not an oversight at all. 


the simple work around is to take off the lens hood when shooting in macro mode. 
 

All the best

The fact that filters work on the Q3 28 and don't on the 43 is absolutely a step backwards on Leica's part. There is no good reason why anyone buying the 43 would expect anything less. Leica should offer a replacement hood at no charge to the 43 buyers.

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1 minute ago, egrossman said:

The fact that filters work on the Q3 28 and don't on the 43 is absolutely a step backwards on Leica's part. There is no good reason why anyone buying the 43 would expect anything less. Leica should offer a replacement hood at no charge to the 43 buyers.

Erik

Exactly, just like how they provided free updates lens hoods to the owners of the summilux SR reissue.

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8 minutes ago, 69xchange said:

Exactly, just like how they provided free updates lens hoods to the owners of the summilux SR reissue.

I hope so, but I doubt they would though.

They put it in writing already, they can come out say: I told you so, and you still bought it, you suck it, it's not my problem.  🫠

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If enough people complain, they will more likely address the problem. While you are at it, mention how unhappy that there is no battery charger in the box. US buyers should not be subject to EU regulations.

Erik

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1 minute ago, egrossman said:

If enough people complain, they will more likely address the problem. While you are at it, mention how unhappy that there is no battery charger in the box. US buyers should not be subject to EU regulations.

Erik

Why do US buyers seem not unhappy with Apple about not having chargers with iPhones?

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1 minute ago, egrossman said:

If enough people complain, they will more likely address the problem. While you are at it, mention how unhappy that there is no battery charger in the box. US buyers should not be subject to EU regulations.

Erik

As annoying as it is, I don’t think complaining about battery charges will change a thing. A few other tech companies omit the charger as well like apple, fuji, and now Leica… even for the new MP and M6, they do not come with the leather battery cover anymore and only the slotted.

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I think this is a bit of a theme with recent lens hood designs by Leica. The hood on my 35 Apo-M also does not work with some filters, specifically Heliopan. Luckily, it works with B+W even though it is a bit tight. Kind of important for me, as I use it on a Monochrom and I keep a yellow filter on the lens all the time.

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1 minute ago, aficionados said:

Why do US buyers seem not unhappy with Apple about not having chargers with iPhones?

Because batteries for the Leica are external and last time I checked, batteries were built into iPhones. Furthermore, Leica doesn't have a universal charger: the M10, M11 and Q3 batteries are all different. You would have a stronger argument if the batteries Leica made were all the same.

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2 minutes ago, albireo_double said:

I think this is a bit of a theme with recent lens hood designs by Leica. The hood on my 35 Apo-M also does not work with some filters, specifically Heliopan. Luckily, it works with B+W even though it is a bit tight. Kind of important for me, as I use it on a Monochrom and I keep a yellow filter on the lens all the time.

All we are asking is that the Q3 43 works the same as all other Q cameras that Leica has made in the past 10 years. This was absolutely form over function. Leica wanted to limit the total length of the lens (including hood) to be no longer than the 28. Just stupid.

Erik

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