SrMi Posted October 27 Share #101 Â Posted October 27 Advertisement (gone after registration) 2 minutes ago, Smogg said: For me, the key factor in upgrading to the X2D2 was the LCD brightness. Now it's usable in sunny weather. That was added probably because of the HDR mode, which requires brighter screens for display. So, HDR mode was helpful :). 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Smogg Posted October 27 Share #102 Â Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, SrMi said: That was added probably because of the HDR mode, which requires brighter screens for display. So, HDR mode was helpful :). I enjoy using the LCD more than the EVF (though less than the OVF), so I wish all cameras had this much brightness. The M11 actually has a very nice and bright LCD too. If it were a 3.2-inch display, I'd be absolutely thrilled. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted October 27 Share #103 Â Posted October 27 I also forgot to add that the X2D2 now has a light sensor that changes the display brightness, like in the M11. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 27 Share #104 Â Posted October 27 16 minutes ago, Smogg said: I enjoy using the LCD more than the EVF (though less than the OVF), so I wish all cameras had this much brightness. The M11 actually has a very nice and bright LCD too. If it were a 3.2-inch display, I'd be absolutely thrilled. The best thing about shooting with an iPhone Pro Max is its large, bright LCD. Most cameras have relatively dim and smallish LCDs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted October 27 Share #105 Â Posted October 27 4 minutes ago, SrMi said: The best thing about shooting with an iPhone Pro Max is its large, bright LCD. Most cameras have relatively dim and smallish LCDs. I don't like taking pictures with my phone, it's uncomfortable to hold it horizontally, and I miss the external tactile controls. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 27 Share #106  Posted October 27 1 minute ago, Smogg said: I don't like taking pictures with my phone, it's uncomfortable to hold it horizontally, and I miss the external tactile controls. Yes to bad ergonomics, but I found it increasingly motivating for finding interesting frames. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homo Faber Posted October 27 Share #107 Â Posted October 27 Advertisement (gone after registration) When saving heifs or jpgs via phocus app to apple cameral roll: is there a way to prevent that the app (or Apple?) creates those funny file names? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted October 27 Share #108 Â Posted October 27 11 hours ago, Smogg said: For me, the key factor in upgrading to the X2D2 was the LCD brightness. Now it's usable in sunny weather. It's like the Great Gatsby upgrading a Bugatti for a better cigar holder!:) Love it! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted October 27 Share #109 Â Posted October 27 11 hours ago, Smogg said: I don't like taking pictures with my phone, it's uncomfortable to hold it horizontally, and I miss the external tactile controls. I wonder if that weird Leica phone grip makes sense then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted October 27 Share #110 Â Posted October 27 11 hours ago, SrMi said: The best thing about shooting with an iPhone Pro Max is its large, bright LCD. Most cameras have relatively dim and smallish LCDs. I've finally obtained an iPhone with the camera control button but it's located too low to be comfortable for the thumb! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 27 Share #111 Â Posted October 27 1 minute ago, setuporg said: It's like the Great Gatsby upgrading a Bugatti for a better cigar holder!:) Love it! I would say that the quality of OVF/EVF/LCD is essential to the enjoyment of a camera. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted October 27 Share #112  Posted October 27 Just now, SrMi said: I would say that the quality of OVF/EVF/LCD is essential to the enjoyment of a camera. Going back in time with the M9 line, I found that a poor LCD (or none in the D series) adds value by discouraging chimping or live view. It ensures something reasonable is being captured, but defers the examination until "development" (ingestion). Since X2D has an EVF, using the LCD is secondary. But a legitimate concern and important one if you use it primarily. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 27 Share #113 Â Posted October 27 3 minutes ago, setuporg said: I wonder if that weird Leica phone grip makes sense then. I wonder too, but I am afraid it will not work with my favorite camera app, Indigo. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SrMi Posted October 27 Share #114  Posted October 27 (edited) 10 minutes ago, setuporg said: Going back in time with the M9 line, I found that a poor LCD (or none in the D series) adds value by discouraging chimping or live view. It ensures something reasonable is being captured, but defers the examination until "development" (ingestion). Since X2D has an EVF, using the LCD is secondary. But a legitimate concern and important one if you use it primarily. Some people may prefer shooting with an LCD instead of an EVF: you do not hide your face behind the camera when shooting people, and you are more aware of the environment. I am used to using an EVF/OVF instead of LCD, but I think I will try shooting more with LCD to see how it affects my workflow. The main problem are the barely sufficient LCDs.  Edited October 27 by SrMi 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
setuporg Posted October 27 Share #115  Posted October 27 1 minute ago, SrMi said: Some people may prefer shooting with an LCD instead of an EVF: you do not hide your face behind the camera when shooting people, and you are more aware of the environment. I am used to using an EVF/OVF instead of LCD, but I think I will try shooting more with LCD to see how it affects my workflow. The main problem are the barely sufficient LCDs. I found that it's the best part of using a 907x.  You hold the small cube in your hand at chest level and you can talk to people or take pictures at a dinner table or in a cafe. The form factor somehow makes it much more natural, a wide camera is not as conducive as you can't so easily cup it from below but have to hold it from a side. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smogg Posted October 27 Share #116 Â Posted October 27 4 hours ago, setuporg said: It's like the Great Gatsby upgrading a Bugatti for a better cigar holder!:) Love it! On the X2D2 I shoot almost exclusively using the LCD. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwidad Posted October 28 Share #117  Posted October 28 On 10/26/2025 at 4:07 AM, Kiwimac said: I have owned both although not at the same time.  The X2D is neither significantly heavier nor larger than the M11 if you fit the small lenses.  An M11 with a large M lens can be heavier than an X2D with a smaller one.  The images from the X2D are fabulous. The colour of every single sensor is calibrated against the reference before the camera is packed for shipping and it shows.  As a system it still required more futzing around. Sold it. Replaced it with the M11-P Safari.  If I shot flash lit portraits using full lighting rigs, umbrellas etc in a studio or landscape images, I’d have kept it. I’ve never set foot in a studio and never shot a flash lit portrait of that kind in the almost 50 years I’ve had a camera in my hand.  It is a great camera though. Just not for me. But you’re comparing apples and oranges! If I want a fast lens on my m11 it’s always going to be lighter than a blad with a fast lens of equivalent focal length! Your suggesting I would be happy in a blad with slow light lens?  i dont understand the logic here but i guess its one way to make the blad seem the weight equivelamt! Size wise its quite a lot biggger and more sl size Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiwimac Posted October 28 Share #118  Posted October 28 I’m not suggesting what you’d be happy with at all. Stick a 90 f1.5 on an M and see how small and light that is. The Leica lens weighs double what the XCD weighs, albeit it’s slightly faster.  The only reason on either camera for fast glass is artistic intent. Therefore there are many instances in which ‘slow’ light lenses are perfectly sufficient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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