Did the May 2024 firmware update 2.1.1. solve your M11 freezing problems?

[elmars]

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No problems here.

[fededuran]

After the latest firmware my M11M does not work right. The shutter button and the menu button often don't react despite pressing them. I have reseted the camera a couple of times, but the issue persists. Curiously, the camera was working fine before installing all these firmwares, each of one looked worst than the previous.

Edited June 30, 2024 by fededuran
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[Jeff S]

5 hours ago, fededuran said:

After the latest firmware my M11M does not work right. The shutter button and the menu button often don't react despite pressing them. I have reseted the camera a couple of times, but the issue persists. Curiously, the camera was working fine before installing all these firmwares, each of one looked worst than the previous.

Tomorrow, buyers will spend $300 more for the privilege.

Jeff

[Knorp]

It sometimes seems like every m11 owner has their own unique problem ... 🤔

[kkm]

vor einer Stunde schrieb Knorp:

It sometimes seems like every m11 owner has their own unique problem ... 🤔

We spent so much money to be individual, so having unique problems is expected and very welcome. 😁

[hdmesa]

Thought it would be helpful to post this screenshot from Canon Rumors Forum from today for perspective. The R5 was released 4 years ago as of next week. It's made by one of the largest camera manufacturers in the world, a company with nearly unlimited resources to refine firmware and revise hardware. It's twice as old as the M11. And yet many R5 users still have freezing issues.

Not surprisingly in a post right below these, someone says, "But mine has been just fine." Sound familiar?

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[EdwardWestin]

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Not sure how often your M11 freeze. I used one for 30 days - firmware 2.1.1 had just released and upgraded. The camera freezes here and there (especially trying to wake the camera up from standby mode). I also get the "overexposed frame" from to time. I will say in regards to the freezing, I've experienced JUST as much freezing issues with the GFX 100, 100s as well as the X2D. All where I have to remove the battery and restart the camera. (You can actually Google those camera models with "freeze issue" and you'll see it was not just exclusive to the bodies I used ) So I've come to attempt that these digital cameras freeze from to time. (Come to think of it my D800 froze every so often as well). 

The intermittent overexposure issue is something I've only experienced with the M11. 

[EdwardWestin]

On 6/30/2024 at 6:36 AM, fededuran said:

After the latest firmware my M11M does not work right. The shutter button and the menu button often don't react despite pressing them. I have reseted the camera a couple of times, but the issue persists. Curiously, the camera was working fine before installing all these firmwares, each of one looked worst than the previous.

I too experienced this. I not sure about you, but I noticed in the viewfinder I can see my shutter speed displayed but I can't take any pictures and I can press any buttons. I'm not shooting multiple pictures in succession so not a buffer issue. 

[Smogg]

Today I had a location shoot. I used two M11s (35mm and 50mm) and shot about 400 frames in 2.5 hours. I used Liveview and Visoflex very actively. I hardly used the on/off button, allowing the cameras to fall asleep. There was only one freeze when the camera did not wake up from sleep mode. This is my first time freeze on 2.1.1 after about 2-3 thousand frames. I sincerely think this is an excellent result of the programmers’ work on the firmware. If I had the previous firmware, a dozen freezes would have been guaranteed.

[Malabito]

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[Jamie Roberts]

Taking pics on vacation, battery at about 65%, and coming out of sleep, my M11P froze up entirely, and required a battery pull with firmware 2.1.1. 

After that it went on for another 500 shots without incident. 

[EdwardWestin]

Smogg - yep, that's the same experience as me with 2.1.1. I don't have any experience with the older firmware as I've had the camera for 28 days second hand from BH. So far, I find it about on par with the GFX and X2D in terms of freezing so at least it's now of equal. Not the worst thing in the world, and otherwise the camera works great overall, and is hella fun to shoot with. 

[PeterKelly]

I bought a used M11 a couple of weeks ago. No freezing issues till yesterday when it froze three times in quick succession I have the new firmware installed.

A bigger problem for me has been the erratic overexposure when using Auto ISO Seems to happen to about 5% of the shots. I have another thread on this but it got somewhat hijacked in arguments/ discussion about exposure 

[Smogg]

5 hours ago, EdwardWestin said:

Smogg - yep, that's the same experience as me with 2.1.1. I don't have any experience with the older firmware as I've had the camera for 28 days second hand from BH. So far, I find it about on par with the GFX and X2D in terms of freezing so at least it's now of equal. Not the worst thing in the world, and otherwise the camera works great overall, and is hella fun to shoot with. 

I have 2 X2Ds, as well as 2 M11s. I have never encountered any freezes using X2D

[MikeW]

1,000 images in, I haven't had any issues on the most recent firmware on my M11-p.

I haven't had 1,000 keepers though, but that's on me.

[swatch]

Have been following up the freeze / unresponsive topic as one of potential buyer of M11.  I begin to think as follows:

1) restrictions on a few settings may avoid freeze / unresponsive behaviour of M11, such as turn off lens detection, turn off sleep mode, store files to only internal memory, avoid very quickly pressing play button just after taking a photo ⋯⋯summary as I read most of the posts by members.  Please note I use the word ‘may’.

2) M camera has never been user friendly: no autofocus, frame lines are only good for reference rather than highly 100% of accuracy, viewfinder has no frame lines beyond 28mm lenses, OVF is not what you see what you get EVF …. no matter owners pay USD9,000 or even more for the camera, these shortcomings will stay forever.

If combining the above point #1 into point #2 as total package of M11, would you accept as trade off for better sensor with great colours?

Functionality of digital camera is getting complex, maybe only a software based company (ie Apple) can manage such development rather than hardware based companies like Fuji / Canon / Leica. What do you think?

I also have my eyes on Pixii who offer full frame RF camera this month.

Edited July 5, 2024 by swatch
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[Markey]

11 minutes ago, swatch said:

Have been following up the freeze / unresponsive topic as one of potential buyer of M11.  I begin to think as follows:

1) restrictions on a few settings may avoid freeze / unresponsive behaviour of M11, such as turn off lens detection, turn off sleep mode, store files to only internal memory, avoid very quickly pressing play button just after taking a photo ⋯⋯summary as I read most of the posts by members.  Please note I use the word ‘may’.

2) M camera has never been user friendly: no autofocus, frame lines are only good for reference rather than highly 100% of accuracy, viewfinder has no frame lines beyond 28mm lenses, OVF is not what you see what you get EVF …. no matter owners pay USD9,000 or even more for the camera, these shortcomings will stay forever.

If combining the above point #1 into point #2 as total package of M11, would you accept as trade off for better sensor with great colours?

Functionality of digital camera is getting complex, maybe only a software based company (ie Apple) can manage such development rather than hardware based companies like Fuji / Canon / Leica. What do you think?

What you describe as shortcomings ie frame lines and lack of autofocus are regarded by many users of the system as benefits .

I have both systems ( EVF and RF )but much prefer using my M bodies.

[hmzimelka]

2 hours ago, swatch said:

Have been following up the freeze / unresponsive topic as one of potential buyer of M11.  I begin to think as follows:

1) restrictions on a few settings may avoid freeze / unresponsive behaviour of M11, such as turn off lens detection, turn off sleep mode, store files to only internal memory, avoid very quickly pressing play button just after taking a photo ⋯⋯summary as I read most of the posts by members.  Please note I use the word ‘may’.

2) M camera has never been user friendly: no autofocus, frame lines are only good for reference rather than highly 100% of accuracy, viewfinder has no frame lines beyond 28mm lenses, OVF is not what you see what you get EVF …. no matter owners pay USD9,000 or even more for the camera, these shortcomings will stay forever.

If combining the above point #1 into point #2 as total package of M11, would you accept as trade off for better sensor with great colours?

Functionality of digital camera is getting complex, maybe only a software based company (ie Apple) can manage such development rather than hardware based companies like Fuji / Canon / Leica. What do you think?

I also have my eyes on Pixii who offer full frame RF camera this month.

How do you completely turn off lens detection when the camera has a passive lens detection on all the time? This can be confirmed by having an uncoded lens, turning off lens detection in the menu, followed by removing the lens and attaching a coded lens while keeping the camera switched ON. You'll notice the camera will now show the coded lens in the lens selection menu. It cannot truly be turned off by the user unfortunately. 

 

I have made a video about it which you can see  HERE

 

Edited July 5, 2024 by hmzimelka

[sebas_]

Have had another corrupted file with my M11-P on the internal SSD, while being fine on the sd card. Camera is set to IN=EXT. No clue, what the cause is. 
I am a bit worried why this is happening on the internal SSD as Leica has complete control over it. 

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[hdmesa]

3 hours ago, sebas_ said:

Have had another corrupted file with my M11-P on the internal SSD, while being fine on the sd card. Camera is set to IN=EXT. No clue, what the cause is. 
I am a bit worried why this is happening on the internal SSD as Leica has complete control over it. 

Interesting. Many if not most of us that shoot IN=SD only use the SD and never even look at the IN files. I have to ask, is it possible the file you copied off the IN is corrupt but the actual file on IN is not?

Edited July 5, 2024 by hdmesa