m11 and sd card new issue, no images recorded

[Malabito]

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I have been using my m11 for a bit over a month, it has worked relatively well, with only a few freezes. Yes, it freezes, but rarely. I am using Kingston canvas react and sandisk pro, both uhs2, (I use mostly the Kingston) and the camera setup to internal memory jpg, sd card raw.

I always format the card on camera before using it, but today, following some comments on the internet I decided to use sd card formatter to format the sd card, I put the sd card back in the camera and headed outside to shoot. All seem to work as expected, until I came back home and loaded the sd card into the laptop, to my surprise, no pictures at all. 

Not sure what happened, anyone had a similar situation? Or is it another one of Leica’s buggy standard behaviors?

The worst part is no raw images were recorded on the internal memory, if you set the camera to internal memory jpg, sd card raw, but don’t load a sd card into the camera, it will record the raw files into the internal memory, but this time it didn't. 

[M11 for me]

- Did you then format in camera and did you try again?

- In windows explorer resp finder: What structure do you see on your SD card? 

- Did you try to put that card into another brand camera without formatting again and does it work there?

[Malabito]

2 minutes ago, M11 for me said:

- Did you then format in camera and did you try again?

- In windows explorer resp finder: What structure do you see on your SD card? 

- Did you try to put that card into another brand camera without formatting again and does it work there?

The card is working. It has the folder structure with the Leica folder.

After realizing it was empty (with no images), I just put it back in again, and this time it did record the RAW files on the card.

It looks like I forgot to put the card in the camera, but if that had been the case, the RAW files would have been recorded on the internal memory, which was not the case.

[lct]

2 hours ago, Malabito said:

[...] I always format the card on camera before using it, but today, following some comments on the internet I decided to use sd card formatter to format the sd card, I put the sd card back in the camera and headed outside to shoot. All seem to work as expected, until I came back home and loaded the sd card into the laptop, to my surprise, no pictures at all. 

Not sure what happened, anyone had a similar situation? Or is it another one of Leica’s buggy standard behaviors?

Or this darned SD Card Formatter? 😄 Just user error i suspect. Happened to me too when i forgot to put a card in the camera. You may wish to try IN=SD.

[Malabito]

13 minutes ago, lct said:

Or this darned SD Card Formatter? 😄 Just user error i suspect. Happened to me too when i forgot to put a card in the camera. You may wish to try IN=SD.

It's not user error. If you forget to put the card inside the camera, it will record the raw files on the internal storage with the JPEGs, which it didn't do. There were no raw files on the internal memory.

[Photoworks]

10 minutes ago, Malabito said:

It's not user error. If you forget to put the card inside the camera, it will record the raw files on the internal storage with the JPEGs, which it didn't do. There were no raw files on the internal memory.

not sure if the 11-P is different from the 11.

In my camera both JPG+DNG will be saved to internal memory if you take out the card.

[Malabito]

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2 minutes ago, Photoworks said:

not sure if the 11-P is different from the 11.

In my camera both JPG+DNG will be saved to internal memory if you take out the card.

Exactly, that's how I know it's not user error. It's the same behavior with the m11.

[Knorp]

Can you reproduce this phenomenon ?

[Malabito]

45 minutes ago, Knorp said:

Can you reproduce this phenomenon ?

Sadly, no. After I realized that no images were on the card, I put the card back in. No other changes were made, and the camera did save the RAW files. I took the SD card out again to test if they would be stored in the internal memory shen the camera had no sd card, and they were.

Seems like it was a one time thing...never happened before, only thing I did different this time was to format the card with the formatter app.

[SrMi]

9 minutes ago, Malabito said:

Sadly, no. After I realized that no images were on the card, I put the card back in. No other changes were made, and the camera did save the RAW files. I took the SD card out again to test if they would be stored in the internal memory shen the camera had no sd card, and they were.

Seems like it was a one time thing...never happened before, only thing I did different this time was to format the card with the formatter app.

Were you able to see images in the camera playback?

[Malabito]

20 minutes ago, SrMi said:

Were you able to see images in the camera playback?

No, it said sd card had no images. If you press the scroll wheel all the way you can select the source of the images you see, when selecting sd it had no images. 

[Knorp]

32 minutes ago, Malabito said:

Sadly, no. After I realized that no images were on the card, I put the card back in. No other changes were made, and the camera did save the RAW files. I took the SD card out again to test if they would be stored in the internal memory shen the camera had no sd card, and they were.

Seems like it was a one time thing...never happened before, only thing I did different this time was to format the card with the formatter app.

This is what I mean reproducing this phenomenon : reformat your SD-card with the SD Card Formatter, put it back in, no further changes and shoot a few images.

[Malabito]

2 minutes ago, Knorp said:

This is what I mean reproducing this phenomenon : reformat your SD-card with the SD Card Formatter, put it back in, no further changes and shoot a few images.

I will try and update back. 

[Knorp]

1 minute ago, Malabito said:

I will try and update back. 

Cool !

[Malabito]

45 minutes ago, Knorp said:

Cool !

I just did, at least as close as i could. Formatted the card on the computer, placed the card on the m11, shot some pictures, check the sd card again, images were indeed in the sd card.

Perhaps it was just an isolated event... a one time thing. Never had this kind of situation in all my shooting time. But to be sure i won't be using that app again, I will do the formatting in camera only.

[Knorp]

3 minutes ago, Malabito said:

I just did, at least as close as i could. Formatted the card on the computer, placed the card on the m11, shot some pictures, check the sd card again, images were indeed in the sd card.

Perhaps it was just an isolated event... a one time thing. Never had this kind of situation in all my shooting time. But to be sure i won't be using that app again, I will do the formatting in camera only.

I'm glad for you it isn't a 'sticky' issue, but a one-time occurrence is still annoying.

[Malabito]

2 minutes ago, Knorp said:

I'm glad for you it isn't a 'sticky' issue, but a one-time occurrence is still annoying.

Yep, indeed makes me loose again the faith on the canera.  Not trust it.

I will just blame it on the app to feel better, and not use it again. 

[Knorp]

20 minutes ago, Malabito said:

Yep, indeed makes me loose again the faith on the canera.  Not trust it.

I will just blame it on the app to feel better, and not use it again. 

The App is fine, really. I'm using it without a glitch for donkey's years !

Various cameras; Leica, Sony, Olympus, Panasonic and Fujifilm.

And various SD-cards; Sandisk, Lexar and Sony.