SL3 , am I the only one ?

[Leslie22]

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I’ve been surprised at how few people have talked about the new ISO dial, I had a quick handle of the SL3 at a Leica shop , and am VERY excited at the idea of switching from Aperture priority to manual ….. me selecting Aperture , shutter speed …… AND now the ISO as well.

After a couple of years of the M11 selecting the ISO for me , what a wonderful change to be able to select all three.

 

[helged]

2 hours ago, Leslie22 said:

I’ve been surprised at how few people have talked about the new ISO dial, I had a quick handle of the SL3 at a Leica shop , and am VERY excited at the idea of switching from Aperture priority to manual ….. me selecting Aperture , shutter speed …… AND now the ISO as well.

After a couple of years of the M11 selecting the ISO for me , what a wonderful change to be able to select all three.

 

Havn't used the ISO-dial at all since I got the SL3 at the launch day. The left hand is glued onto the lens, to maximise stability and balance. The right hand takes care of a few menu profiles and occasional changes to menu settings. Old habit, I assume, coupled to an even older, pre-programmed brain. Hard to change...

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[FlashGordonPhotography]

I hate it. It's in a lousy spot for an ISO dial on a mirrorless camera and the change between auto and manual ISO when using the dials is simply awful. Who actually thought that it's fine to HAVE to lower the camera to change ISO? And why is the functionality different between a dial and a button for the same function. Yuch!

On the SL2 you could program the right rear dial *click* to be ISO so you had everything available without lowering the camera or taking your left hand off the lens. Currently that functionality is removed from the SL3. It's locked to the mode select which I almost never need.

I think the new dial could be really useful. But not as it is. Maybe if Leica add the ability to change drive modes or custom profiles. But for ISO? No thanks.

The SL2 was already perfect for ISO selection. Now they've screwed it up.

Gordon

[Photoworks]

I don't think it was a needed change, and in photos, I have presets for studio and other types of shooting.

But I have found some use for it when shooting video. I like the ISO dial from M11.

[la1402]

I don’t use it either. I thought I would like it but actually find limited value in having it there. Overall, I love the UI but that left dial  could do with repurposing. 

[Luke_Miller]

As an SL and SL2 owner I was excited about an upcoming SL3.  But I think Leica "jumped the shark" with the ISO dial and power button.

[Chaemono]

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vor 1 Minute schrieb Luke_Miller:

As an SL and SL2 owner I was excited about an upcoming SL3.  But I think Leica "jumped the shark" with the ISO dial and power button.

Power button is convenient, I found shooting it side by side with the SL2-S the other day. One can change lenses when the camera is in sleep mode and it can be woken up quickly by pressing the shutter button. I agree on the second wheel not being necessary for A mode. Manual may be different, though. 

[Luke_Miller]

I wasn't suggesting that the ISO dial and new power button weren't useful, just that IMO they were unnecessary changes intended to make the SL3 more "new and improved."  Since digital camera technology has matured, camera makers are struggling a bit to make improvements that will entice customers to upgrade.  As an event photographer I find maintaining a similar user interface across model generations allows me to keep the previous generation camera as a second camera or backup.  The SL, SL2, and SL3 are so different as to make that challenging.

[LocalHero1953]

I don't have the SL3, just the SL2-S. I would find the dial for ISO useful, although I agree it should include AutoISO. I wouldn't expect to change ISO with the camera at my eye, but I would be glad to do it without having to use the touch screen or joystick. I hold the camera with a handstrap on the right, so my left hand is usually free to change the dial.

[billhart]

Can you switch the left hand dial to control exposure compensation?

[cbgrey]

41 minutes ago, billhart said:

Can you switch the left hand dial to control exposure compensation?

Also my question. Is the dial limited to ISO only? 

[FlashGordonPhotography]

Current options are ISO, EV comp and aperture. None are ideal, IMHO, as I wouldn't want to have to lower the camera or do hand gymnastics for any of these. These functions should be available for fast operation. The dial isn't easy to reach with the camera to your eye. Fine on a tripod.

I can think of a dozen useful options for the dial. These are none of them. How about user profiles, or perspective control or drive mode?

On the SL2 you could set it up so the front and rear dials controlled the exposure triangle. There was zero reason not to allow this on the SL3.

Gordon

[geronimosan]

It's all customizable. If you don't like the dial being used for ISO, then great - change it. Problem solved.

 

[Photoworks]

The left dial has different functions for AF and MF.

[algrove]

11 hours ago, Luke_Miller said:

As an SL and SL2 owner I was excited about an upcoming SL3.  But I think Leica "jumped the shark" with the ISO dial and power button.

I just block the ISO dial so I do not accidentally turn it when putting it in a bag or other way I might inadvertently turn it.

As the power button, I like it.

[Leslie22]

I have no problem changing the ISO dial with the camera up to my eye ..... change then steady camera etc.

I love the idea of being able to select Aperture , Shutter and ISO so easily , and see the results in the viewfinder.

[Jptsr1]

14 hours ago, Chaemono said:

Power button is convenient, I found shooting it side by side with the SL2-S the other day. One can change lenses when the camera is in sleep mode and it can be woken up quickly by pressing the shutter button. I agree on the second wheel not being necessary for A mode. Manual may be different, though. 

This is it for me. They did an "Apple" with the power button and ISO dial. Provided a solution to a problem I didn't have. I'm sure it will grow on me once I have one  but I'm not in a hurry to gonout and get it. 

[FlashGordonPhotography]

3 hours ago, Leslie22 said:

I have no problem changing the ISO dial with the camera up to my eye ..... change then steady camera etc.

I love the idea of being able to select Aperture , Shutter and ISO so easily , and see the results in the viewfinder.

It was easier on the SL2. But if you like it you like it.

Gordon

[FlashGordonPhotography]

12 hours ago, LocalHero1953 said:

I don't have the SL3, just the SL2-S. I would find the dial for ISO useful, although I agree it should include AutoISO. I wouldn't expect to change ISO with the camera at my eye, but I would be glad to do it without having to use the touch screen or joystick. I hold the camera with a handstrap on the right, so my left hand is usually free to change the dial.

It does include auto ISO. Just to get there is different than a button assignment for ISO. It's one extra step with a different dial (or joystick). Blech!

Gordon

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[FlashGordonPhotography]

4 hours ago, algrove said:

I just block the ISO dial so I do not accidentally turn it when putting it in a bag or other way I might inadvertently turn it.

As the power button, I like it.

How do you *block* it? I can't see an option to disable any of the dials.

Gordon