jaapv Posted April 7 Share #201 Posted April 7 Advertisement (gone after registration) I would not attempt to try to fix it even if there are some tricks to be found on the Internet. Either the battery is simply at the end of life, the battery management system may be defect, or the membranes may have clogged up by improper storage. All remedies you'll find like using an uncontrolled power source to "jump start" the battery, will carry a real risk of setting the battery on fire (and you don't want to have a Lithium fire!) or even having it explode. Use it as-is and buy new batteries, no matter that it may take some effort to find them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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jaapv Posted April 7 Share #202 Posted April 7 On 3/27/2025 at 1:44 PM, 84bravo said: I have a brand new battery that is flat out of the box. I let it sit too long in a drawer. Any suggestions on how to bring it back to life? Contact Leica Wetzlar. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 8 Share #203 Posted April 8 On 4/7/2025 at 4:51 AM, David__ said: I have purchased a M10 recently which was last serviced in July 2022. From its condition it was quite likely sitting in a drawer since then. Batteries were hence idle for around 20 months. I have three batteries and charging never completes to the point a solid green light is shown. When installed in to the camera I get just 2 bars (Leica app indicating 20%). Is there anyway to get an overall health of the battery ? Or is there anyway to revitalize the battery ? Would the jump start help ? Yes Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mujk Posted April 9 Share #204 Posted April 9 On 4/7/2025 at 12:51 PM, David__ said: I have purchased a M10 recently which was last serviced in July 2022. From its condition it was quite likely sitting in a drawer since then. Batteries were hence idle for around 20 months. I have three batteries and charging never completes to the point a solid green light is shown. When installed in to the camera I get just 2 bars (Leica app indicating 20%). Is there anyway to get an overall health of the battery ? Or is there anyway to revitalize the battery ? Would the jump start help ? A jump start means a brief, forced charging using another battery or power supply. It may be effective in cases where the battery suffers from a deep discharge, meaning it's so completely depleted that the charger refuses to charge it. Jump starting circumvents the battery management system that otherwise would protect the battery from excessive voltages and currents, overcharging etc. Consequently, a jump start has the potential to damage the battery, possibly with catastrophic consequences. Batteries that don't get fully charged anymore do not suffer from a deep discharge and should therefore not be jump started. It is quite likely that such a battery is permanently damaged and should be recycled. However, it may be worth attempting a few full discharge/charge cycles using the camera and the normal charger, even if the charge will not be fully complete. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robert blu Posted April 9 Share #205 Posted April 9 I have not understood if BP SC5 is the same or equivalent of BP SCL5 I see BP SC5 suggested for the M10R The batteries of my M10 (noR) are labelled BP SCL5 Thanks in advance if anyone can comment. Google brought me to an even more confusing ideas! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 9 Share #206 Posted April 9 6 hours ago, robert blu said: I have not understood if BP SC5 is the same or equivalent of BP SCL5 I see BP SC5 suggested for the M10R The batteries of my M10 (noR) are labelled BP SCL5 Thanks in advance if anyone can comment. Google brought me to an even more confusing ideas! BP SC5 is the error. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete1003 Posted April 10 Share #207 Posted April 10 Advertisement (gone after registration) Looking for a M10 battery for so long in Asia, then realised they have nothing here. I ended up finding some stock remain from random German websites. So I ordered one and asked a friend to bring it back. Finally received it yesterday, I guess this is the fastest way for someone who really needs a new battery right now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jplomley Posted April 10 Share #208 Posted April 10 This is beyond idiotic. I do not expect my M10-R and M10M to become obsolete because Leica can’t pull their finger out and supply batteries. Give me a break. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsung Posted April 14 Share #209 Posted April 14 (edited) i have a dead m10 battery and here are some thoughts charge the battery as soon as you have used it, empty batteries have higher percentage to fail charge battery frequently, the m10 battery will drain itself if not using Do not try anything to revive a dead battery unless its thru a professional, you dont want to have an unstable lithium battery inside your camera, it means trouble Edited April 14 by Jsung Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helge Posted April 16 Share #210 Posted April 16 All batteries are subject to self discharge, so storing an almost empty battery is never a good idea. Especially lithium based batteries will die if the charge level drops below a certain (admittedly very low) level. This can happen by self discharge. So charging after complete discharge (by usage) is definitely recommended. Also is a frequent supervision of the charge level of a stored battery recommended (maybe twice/year). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ljmartyre Posted April 19 Share #211 Posted April 19 (edited) Leica Store in Bellevue WA has a few. I just bought 2 and they were shipped the next day. Edited April 19 by Ljmartyre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crf59 Posted April 19 Share #212 Posted April 19 Sorry for this folks, but I reached my limit. I love Leicas - like the build, the history, the quality of the optics, the feeling they give me. I own everything from Barnacks to all of the digitals but the M8. You could say I'm invested.... Among the herd are a couple of M10s (I prefer the M11s, but I do still like to use the other cameras periodically). I had 4 batteries across them initially, but due to 2 battery failures I am down to 2. One no longer holds a charge nearly as well. Same issue with my M240/246. I have been trying to buy new batteries for 2 years. I have sent Leica several e-mails about the issue. It is unfathomable to me that Leica, who touts the "lifetime of use" regularly cannot maintain a supply of batteries. There are thousands of M10 users out there who would gladly pay a little extra premium to get new batteries. But because Leica made very poor decisions about batteries and supply, those users will eventually end up with useless bricks. If you don't want to make them, pass off the technical design details to Wasabi or another 3rd party company. I hate to rant, but this makes me want to never use a digital Leica again. This is also a growing trend with Leica - stick your head in the sand and ignore legions of loyal users. M11 firmware, APO M aperture issues, battery issues, etc, etc. Glitches occur, but be up front about them, communicate what your actions are, and solve the problems. Arrogance is destructive and you can only rest on your laurels for so long. Man up Leica. 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlesphoto99 Posted April 19 Share #213 Posted April 19 Well said. Leica really need to get their shit together on this one. And before any UK/EU members pipe in saying "I bought one at my dealer's last week" let me just say, well, isn't that nice. But US and other users shouldn't have to cop the price of a plane ticket and hotel to just buy a battery for their camera body. I fortunately had my wife bring one back from Germany for me last year when she was visiting family, but other than used ones at new prices (which I paid) there has hardly been a BP-SCL5 sighting in the States for the last couple of years. Really untenable imo if Leica want to keep users like @crf59 and have them upgrade at some point, and not forced to upgrade due to lack of batteries, which absolutely sucks when talking $9k bodies (not all of us have tha kind of 'disposable' cash laying around, though that seems to be the Leica mindset these days). Figure this out Leica!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomB_tx Posted April 19 Share #214 Posted April 19 I had considered buying a used M10R, as it came with a battery. Fortunately it sold to remove the temptation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeterKelly Posted April 19 Share #215 Posted April 19 Has Leica ever published a reason for “batterygate”? I does seem unfathomable that this has carried on for so long. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 19 Share #216 Posted April 19 People are reporting buying them - it seems that supplies are reaching the USA - provided the trade war doesn't upset things again... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 19 Share #217 Posted April 19 I had to merge threads - please do not start multiple threads on the same subject Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crf59 Posted April 19 Share #218 Posted April 19 3 hours ago, jaapv said: People are reporting buying them - it seems that supplies are reaching the USA - provided the trade war doesn't upset things again... I am normally tolerant of reasonable supply chain issues, but this is just plain mismanagement on the part of Leica. I have experienced some issues with other company's batteries not being available all the time, but they always remedy the problem quickly. I am personally just tired of Leica not explaining why these issues occur to the extent they have and there is NEVER any admission of fault or any discussion of the solution. As I said before, this is just plain brand arrogance. If enough people complain, maybe they'll get the message. Coddling them and just saying "it happens" is poor recompense for what has become an epidemic at Leica. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaapv Posted April 19 Share #219 Posted April 19 I agree that some kind of explanation would be customer friendly, but corporate culture differs between Germany and the USA. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdlaing Posted April 20 Share #220 Posted April 20 Varta Battery company has a lot of problems. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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