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On 3/27/2024 at 4:58 PM, dugby said:

I’m celebrating 40 yrs of continuous use with my twice re-capped Naims (32.5 HC 250 )and have recently added a Naim 555-PS to my Naim nDAC and Naim Core.

Salisbury knows how to build electronics, maybe Leica should outsource to Naim Audio 😜

I've got a NAP 160 bolt down I bought for $450 a few years back. Once I got a new cord for it (with the bulgin connector) it sounds fantastic. Appears to have had a non-Naim recap at some point. DAC V1 for the preamp. 

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Am 28.3.2024 um 01:01 schrieb jdlaing:

I still use digital cameras from 20 years ago. Magically they still function as the did when new.

That was the time when the Nikon D70 appeared with 6.1MP. Today, every smartphone has a better dynamic range and image quality than the D70. Using it is more of a nostalgic affair than a necessity. By the way, you can still buy batteries for the Nikon D70 today for a mere 12€ =~12$. This is probably the reason why it still works today. So this has nothing to do with magic, but rather with the supply of spare parts.

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On 3/28/2024 at 12:43 AM, PeterGA said:

Leica DMR users arent so lucky ...

There are people who can rebuild DMR batteries if/when they die. The batteries that is, not the technicians offering a posthumous battery service.

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What is all this about electronics being eWaste after 10 years?  My Apple II+ goes strong and it is from 1979... as does my HP41CX calculator from 1986.  TI-59 calculators from 1977 can now gain new life with rebuilt battery packs... Hopefully the Leica's will also.  

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vor 7 Stunden schrieb John Miranda:

as does my HP41CX calculator from 1986

Now a wonderful technical museum artifact. Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today? I've just taken mine out of the drawer again. I should dust it off again. And, of course, batteries are still available.

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20 hours ago, andybarton said:

There are people who can rebuild DMR batteries if/when they die. The batteries that is, not the technicians offering a posthumous battery service.

I wonder if even these ghostly technicians will be able to rebuild M10 batteries? The DMR batteries probably didn't have an authentication chip, but the M10 batteries might. If there is a chip, maybe you can transfer it to a rebuilt battery, but maybe not.

It's reassuring when a battery is widely cloned by third parties. The NP-95 for my X100T is no longer made by Fuji, but it's easy to find high quality replacements. Maybe there needs to be some sort of consumer legislation like the EU has for USB-C phone chargers, mandating a set of open generic standards for batteries and requiring all devices sold to be compatible with one of them. There's no need for every company to come up with its own proprietary standard that may be discarded a few years later. You could probably cover everything from a pocket P&S to a pro mirrorless or dSLR with maybe 4 sizes. Or at least ban authentication chips for batteries as anti-competitive (and do the same for printer cartridges while they're at it).

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On 3/28/2024 at 11:01 AM, jdlaing said:

I still use digital cameras from 20 years ago. Magically they still function as the did when new.

i got a used canon 1 Ds mk2 for USD300 earlier this year. this was one of the early 'full frame' digital cameras from around 20 yrs ago. it was a pain but i did manage to find a 3rd party selling a compatible nickel battery!

i took this warhorse on a shoot yesterday, im really surprised how good the image looks for such vintage tech

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And I've still got the original version of the Canon 1DS I bought 21 years ago. It's quite easy to get decent batteries on Amazon and the camera works as well as ever. It doesn't get many outings these days but I use it especially if I need to do macro.

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On 3/27/2024 at 6:23 PM, 01maciel said:

Don't worry, after 10 years at the latest, all electronic devices, whether cameras, laptops or smartphones, are e-waste 🗑️

 

After 12 months in some cases e.g. iPhones 😀. Then there are the people who were early adopters of EVs who find that nobody wants their 'short range' vehicles. We have all bought into the whole dastardly plan, buying convenience in exchange for planned obsolescence. When was the last time anyone here had their electric kettle repaired? Then there is the manipulation of customers through firmware and software upgrades, where you cannot do certain things or access particular services if you don't have a 'current' OS on your computer.

Adam Smith 1723-1790 said it all a long time ago

“People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices.”

William 

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21 hours ago, 01maciel said:

Now a wonderful technical museum artifact. Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today? I've just taken mine out of the drawer again. I should dust it off again. And, of course, batteries are still available.

 

Excellent calculator, mine is on my desk, I use it often.  Power it up!

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Am 30.3.2024 um 08:59 schrieb 01maciel:

Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today?

You are not alone.

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OMG, HP calculators!  Still have a couple.  Picked up a 15C re-issue back while I was still working, used it all the time although I preferred the 35S mostly.

RPN is the Leica M of calculators; only for those that know how to use it or are willing to learn.

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vor einer Stunde schrieb KFo:

OMG, HP calculators!  Still have a couple.  Picked up a 15C re-issue back while I was still working, used it all the time although I preferred the 35S mostly.

RPN is the Leica M of calculators; only for those that know how to use it or are willing to learn.

A little OT: You should know, the best dealer for HP calculators, used ones and new is in your neighbourhood:

https://www.thecalculatorstore.com/

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I wouldn't be surprised if there was a correlation between the former use of HP calculators with RPN and Leica users. Even back then, my fellow students didn't understand why I was using what they thought was a strange device instead of a proper calculator. Today it's exactly the same, only with my Leica. 😂

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On 3/30/2024 at 6:59 PM, 01maciel said:

Who still knows the Reverse Polish notation today?

32S (at home) and 35S  (in office) in frequent use.

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