No charger?

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1 hour ago, jaapv said:

When all other cameras include a charger?

In fairness, Sony nor Nikon (a7cii or Zf) have a charger...

[la1402]

My Leica M11 came with a charger, my Sony A7R5 too. This has nothing to do with regulations -  everybody knows that and using that argument is greenwashing. This is a cost saving measure by Leica. Nothing else.

[jaapv]

59 minutes ago, BernardC said:

That's a very unusual circumstance where you have access to AC power, but nobody in your party has a USB phone charger, your vehicle doesn't have a USB plug, no one has a laptop with USB, etc. In that case, you might want to bring a second phone charger, a 12v adapter for a car, or buy a spare Leica charger (original or aftermarket). I realize it's an inconvenience and extra expense, but those kinds of circumstances always require some redundancy in your equipment. A 12v power socket adapter should only weigh a few grams, and you can get high-power versions for a very reasonable price (under 20 Euro).

Hang on - I need to charge during the daytime when there is solar power available. At the same time that I use the camera. I need a dedicated charger then. How many fellow guests have Leica chargers?

[KenTanaka]

I agree with Jaap. This is a low-brow, chintzy omission by Leica.

[tomasis7]

2 hours ago, jaapv said:

Powebanks are heavy - I can only take 15kg on a light aircraft including camera gear 

i checked Nitecore website.. they have carbon fiber case around 150gr for 10 000 mah. The old leica sl4 has 2000 mah and weighs around 80 gr. 

4 batteries weigh 320 gr. Offset 2 batteries and save 180 gr for a power bank. It might be a charging loss. One needs test it at home

[jaapv]

As long as I can bring some spare underwear. I will always need 4 batteries, regardless of charging regime.

[BernardC]

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1 minute ago, jaapv said:

Hang on - I need to charge during the daytime when there is solar power available. At the same time that I use the camera. I need a dedicated charger then. How many fellow guests have Leica chargers?

That's why I said it was unusual. Powering any camera in those circumstances is non-trivial. I can think of a few options (provided you don't want to purchase a dedicated charger)

• Bring a longer USB cable and plug your SL3 into a vehicle whenever you get a chance. Even an old Land Cruiser should have a "cigarette lighter" socket (check ahead obviously).
• Get a small power bank, charge that with solar during the day, and use the power bank to charge your batteries overnight.

Honestly, in your situation I would buy a 50€ Nitecore charger (or two).

 

[JohnSantaF4]

5 hours ago, Simone_DF said:

The official Sony battery charger is less than 50€, and you can find third party options for 20€.

Leica is 155.

Why is that? Wouldn’t a power bank be cheaper?

[SrMi]

21 minutes ago, jaapv said:

Hang on - I need to charge during the daytime when there is solar power available. At the same time that I use the camera. I need a dedicated charger then. How many fellow guests have Leica chargers?

The included Leica chargers require 220/110 volts. How can you provide that in the field?

Nitecore charges via USB power.

Edited March 8, 2024 by SrMi

[jaapv]

5 minutes ago, BernardC said:

That's why I said it was unusual. Powering any camera in those circumstances is non-trivial. I can think of a few options (provided you don't want to purchase a dedicated charger)

• Bring a longer USB cable and plug your SL3 into a vehicle whenever you get a chance. Even an old Land Cruiser should have a "cigarette lighter" socket (check ahead obviously).
• Get a small power bank, charge that with solar during the day, and use the power bank to charge your batteries overnight.

Honestly, in your situation I would buy a 50€ Nitecore charger (or two).

 

I generally use a couple of Nitecores, and quite a few vehicles have an inverter for 240V nowadays. But that is by no means guaranteed. On night drives the cigarette lighter socket is in use for the spotlight.  I'm not really worried, I managed for over 20 years of digital. 

[jaapv]

2 minutes ago, SrMi said:

How can you provide that in the field?

Solar in camp.

[Edax]

2 hours ago, jaapv said:

When all other cameras include a charger?

Nikon Zf doesn’t come with a charger too… To rephrase: “too early compliance with EU directive”…

[SoarFM]

8 hours ago, jaapv said:

Personally I find the absence of a charger a deal-breaker. I cannot imagine having to charge by USB when I am out shooting with large power-hungry lenses and not a power source for this funny USB adapter within miles, nor having a power bank dangling from my camera.  I always rotate a couple of full batteries. Do I have to get up a few times at night to switch charging batteries?
This is a camera aimed at professional level use, right? War correspondents, wildlife photographers, antarctic expeditions, etc? Not just one battery every two days shooting the cats and kids.

Slamming 400$ on the price to rectify this cost-cutting is too Leica for me. 

There is another thread here about a month ago gnashing teeth about the presumed high price of the new SL3. Then it comes in at the exact same price as the SL2. When I consider how many people buying the SL3 already own a compatible charger, it would seem that making everyone pay for an additional charger could be viewed as unnecessary. 

 

7 hours ago, FocusDot said:

Saving the planet by omitting the charger and then expecting you to buy it additionally - great move. 🤑
On the other hand - many of us already has a charger from other SL's or Q's, so...not a big deal for me...

 

It’s not a big deal for you, me or most of the people queuing up for an SL3. It’s not going to save the planet, but at least it’s not wasteful.

[jaapv]

9 minutes ago, Edax said:

Nikon Zf doesn’t come with a charger too… To rephrase: “too early compliance with EU directive”…

I must read that directive Does it say : “You may not sell a camera with a charger in the box”.? Anyway, a directive is just a directive. It can only have force when embedded in national law. 

[BernardC]

2 minutes ago, SoarFM said:

It’s not a big deal for you, me or most of the people queuing up for an SL3. It’s not going to save the planet, but at least it’s not wasteful.

I agree. Anyone who can afford a high-end digital camera (any brand) probably has a drawer full of USB chargers already. I know I do. Somewhere in that drawer is a Sigma-branded charger for the fp that I've never used because I plug it into my phone charger.

[Simone_DF]

1 hour ago, SoarFM said:

LWhen I consider how many people buying the SL3 already own a compatible charger,

For how long will the charger be compatible? It is already designed for the previous generation. If Leica will come up with a more powerful battery for the SL4, it may become underpowered

[Simone_DF]

1 hour ago, SoarFM said:

. It’s not going to save the planet, but at least it’s not wasteful.

What is wasteful is the paper manual included. It was omitted on the SL2, now it’s back. 

[Manicouagan1]

Can the SL3 battery be recharged with the SL2 charger?   

 

[Osirix]

6 hours ago, NickT said:

Does anyone know if the nitecore charger works on the new Q3/SL3 battery - it is the smae shape as the ols one?

Nitecore charger ULSL works with the new Q3 battery. No issues so far.

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11 hours ago, jaapv said:

Personally I find the absence of a charger a deal-breaker. I cannot imagine having to charge by USB when I am out shooting with large power-hungry lenses and not a power source for this funny USB adapter within miles, nor having a power bank dangling from my camera.  I always rotate a couple of full batteries. Do I have to get up a few times at night to switch charging batteries?
This is a camera aimed at professional level use, right? War correspondents, wildlife photographers, antarctic expeditions, etc? Not just one battery every two days shooting the cats and kids.

Slamming 400$ on the price to rectify this cost-cutting is too Leica for me. 

It shows Leica is not considering itself as a company for professionals. Rich people and wannabe’s only.