Would a m240/262 a good camera still after being used to the files of a SL2s?

[Olaf_ZG]

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After having had the m9m, m10, q, q2 and sl, I finally settled down with a m10m and sl2s. Really happy with this combo, but sometimes I would like a smaller color cam to carry whole day around.

I could buy the m10-r, but it is still rather expensive, especially as I won’t be carrying it in a bag, and would get tossed around a bit therefore.

The m9 is an option, but for slightly more, there is the m240/262 (don’t know the difference as till now I never seriously had a look on this series).

Loving the output from the sl2-s, will I be happy with the 240/262 or is a lot of pp needed? Must admit I like what I see from the m9, so this is a serious option as well.

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[dpitt]

M9 is the last CCD sensor M.
M240 is the first with LV or EVF

These are the main differences  in features.
Main M9 issue is the sensor corrosion as you probably know, owning the M9M.
M240 did not have major production fault issues...

I think the M9 would be a nice alternative for the colors it gives compared to the CMOS sensors in all your other gear. IMHO, the perfect M for me would be the M10-R with all of its features and with the CCD sensor look. I think/hope it is close but some still prefer the M9 output. Not me, the main thing that is holding me back is the price of an M10R or M10. It would be nice to have both M9 and M10.

Edited November 18, 2023 by dpitt

[dpitt]

6 minutes ago, Al Brown said:

You probably will not be happy. M240 is 2013 tech. Terrible green opened shadows. Tiny buffer. Find an used M10, it is the first digital Leica where the company made everything right.

Agreed if the budget allows it. But if it is the choice between any M before the M10 or any other camera to have with you all the time... I think it is very hard to beat the performance of any M for its size and weight, certainly if you already have the lenses.

[Olaf_ZG]

@Al Brown, @dpitt thanks for your input. Will go, if I go, for a m10. Ofcourse the question then would be which one 😎🤪, although I guess it will be the r, as the p is just slightly cheaper. 
But then, I have a camera of around 5k, which is a bit less easy to toss around.

[dpitt]

Get a good half case for it. And maybe sticker it, I have seen very nice examples of stickered M's. You 'd still better not throw it, but is perfect to counter small scratches and wear.

For example these

Edited November 20, 2023 by dpitt

[jaapv]

I think a CL is the best "small SL" But why not just use one of your Qs?

[a.noctilux]

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On 11/18/2023 at 2:40 PM, Olaf_ZG said:

I finally settled down with a m10m and sl2s

With my profound respect, Jaap, the OP don't have Q.

12 minutes ago, jaapv said:

I think a CL is the best "small SL" But why not just use one of your Qs?

 

M(typ 240) or M(262) if LV/screen (= M-D ) not important each is as good as other M with 24Mpix when results are the main purpose (this is only my opinion of M10/M240/M262/M-D/M246 user).

Edited November 20, 2023 by a.noctilux

[dem331]

I find the M240 a great companion /alternative to my SL2, although I use it more and more ocassionally. I am still pleasantly surprised by its va performance whenever I do use it. 

[jaapv]

43 minutes ago, a.noctilux said:

With my profound respect, Jaap, the OP don't have Q.

 

M(typ 240) or M(262) if LV/screen (= M-D ) not important each is as good as other M with 24Mpix when results are the main purpose (this is only my opinion of M10/M240/M262/M-D/M246 user).

Well, he lists them as having owned. My point is that if the camera is meant to replace a SL2s as carry-around camera you are introducing extra idiosyncrasies by choosing an M series. I would opt to stay as close as possible to the camera I want to replace. Edit: On my last Africa trip I stayed within the L mount by taking SL CL and TL to minimize on lenses I had to carry and to create redundancy. I used the SL and CL equally. The TL was used when walking around as it is reasonably cheap to replace. 

[lct]

Don't expect the same dynamic range as your SL2-S with the M240 (link below). Color wise the M240 has a slight yellow cast and its reds tend to clip in case of over exposure but it can be fixed in most cases in PP. Digital noise and/or banding can be a problem at 6400 iso, which is the limit of the camera in absence of noise reduction. Not a big issue if you don't over expose though. Snap at 6400 iso with no NR in PP below.

https://www.photonstophotos.net/Charts/PDR.htm#Leica M (Typ 240),Leica SL2-S

https://photos.smugmug.com/Diverse/n-QFBj4/Leica-M240-ZM-502/i-HCLdBLC/0/a803c344/X4/M2401879_sips-X4.jpg

Edited November 20, 2023 by lct

[Olaf_ZG]

9 hours ago, jaapv said:

Well, he lists them as having owned. My point is that if the camera is meant to replace a SL2s as carry-around camera you are introducing extra idiosyncrasies by choosing an M series. I would opt to stay as close as possible to the camera I want to replace. Edit: On my last Africa trip I stayed within the L mount by taking SL CL and TL to minimize on lenses I had to carry and to create redundancy. I used the SL and CL equally. The TL was used when walking around as it is reasonably cheap to replace. 

Problem is that till not, though great, both q/q2 did not work for me. Too wide being my biggest problem.

[a.noctilux]

Olaf,

in your shoes, I'd take an M10 to have same M/memory-muscle/tactile/accessories as your M10 Monochrom.

[Olaf_ZG]

Despite your advice I am still in doubt. For sure the m10 is better, but then, with cheap demos still around I would rather buy a demo. Which then will be twice the price of a m240/262.

A m9 would be nice, but is as expensive as a m240/262.

 I don’t care for video, so might look a bit around for a 262 (or m10r). Difference in price will buy me a nice lens, so it will be a tough choice, especially as the camera will not be babied, so the cheaper, the better …

[Olaf_ZG]

In the end I went for a m-p. Managed to get a great set for a good price. For sure @Al Brown is right, stating the m10 is better, but in that case I want a m10r, adding 3000€.

The camera is meant to be a daily carry, tossed and bumped around. They m10 would just be to expensive for that…

[Olaf_ZG]

My first real image (the ones before were just tests focused on my glass of wine, tv, etc). The sun just came up, above the cloud, so while preparing to go to work, I quickly went out and took a photo. With the nokton 35/1.4sc.

Must say, till now, colors are fine with me, but then, my journey is just starting.

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